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Question asked by varshiva in #PHP on Jan 24, 2013
varshiva
varshiva · Jan 24, 2013
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hello CEans..
after a long struggles got a small job in a new company as a php developer.

some what happy in mind and ready to join in job.

suddenly one day my friends uncle asked me what are you doing?? i said recently got selected as a php developer in "some " company.he said php don't have better feature. don't waste you time.just try jobs in another domain.


again started a confusion in mind..

my dear CEans..

help me??? Posted in: #PHP
Anoop Kumar
Anoop Kumar · Jan 24, 2013
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php is considered to be limited to only web applications websites (The future of PHP) thing but if you have strong interest in web then php is just starting.
You have vast scope of learning jQuery, Ajax and HTML5, Json to web services. There is so much to learn and make a very successful career.
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Jan 24, 2013
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You should have asked your uncle why he thinks that PHP has no future. I'm always surprised when people authoritatively predict the future and advice based on their own assumptions.

Given the widespread adaption of PHP, I'd expect it to last for at a long time in future. Plus, you are essentially a 'programmer' and the language is just a tool. The main focus for any programmer has to be the 'logic implementation' which can make him/her get proficiency in any language quickly, when required.

PHP is one of the basic languages to learn if you're making a career in web development.
varshiva
varshiva · Jan 24, 2013
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thank you ianoop and bigk.for your valuable suggestions.right now i am 2012 BTCH(cse) pass out student.do i have any chance to make it experience for java programmer after one year or two.
rahul69
rahul69 · Jan 24, 2013
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varshiva
thank you ianoop and bigk.for your valuable suggestions.right now i am 2012 BTCH(cse) pass out student.do i have any chance to make it experience for java programmer after one year or two.
My suggestion is : don't leave this job, unless you find a better one. As ianoop said, PHP is just starting, and u should stick to this if u like web programming,but if u really want to work as Java developer, well then there is a risk that you would have to take and the decision should be fully yours .
Good Luck!!
Abhishek Rawal
Abhishek Rawal · Jan 24, 2013
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My perspective is little bit different.Basically, I will never understand this "demand" stuff.

You won't believe me brother, but a person knowing just C (but very very deep) can earn & can have much more demand in market comparing to people who knows 5 to 7 different languages(none of 'em is mastered).

Yeah, I mean C only.. No C++ nor Objective-C. just simple C !

What's the use of learning "basics" of 10 languages & mastering none ?
I would rather prefer "mastering" one & ignoring other.

varshiva
do i have any chance to make it experience for java programmer after one year or two.
This is statistics of 2012 : https://www.i-programmer.info/news/98-languages/5298-the-top-languages-of-2012.html

After 2014/2015 you might see, Python, & Bash in top ten so will you again listen to some friend's uncle & change your goal & start python scripting ?

But again whatever we or anyone advises you - listen to your heart, your heart somehow knows what you "really" want.

Don't listen to us - Listen to your heart.
Good luck 👍
varshiva
varshiva · Jan 24, 2013
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thank you rahul and troll_so_hard.
first i need job.this is my final decision.

once again thank you
Ankita Katdare
Ankita Katdare · Jan 25, 2013
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Any kind of learning won't go to waste. When you become proficient in one computer language, it becomes very easy to grasp other languages.
Choose a technology and start coding. You won't regret.

And PHP, my friend, has the brightest future. 👍
varshiva
varshiva · Feb 17, 2013
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finally joined in office.

thank you ceans for your suggestions and now i am working as a trainee .

do we have any tutorial like simply coder for php&java script and j query....!


please if anybody is able to spend their time to explain concepts in php.
please explain .
safiajen0055
safiajen0055 · Feb 21, 2013
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Learning computer languages like PHP is never waste of time at all and no one can ask their learner have no future. Also try to best what you have.
simplycoder
simplycoder · Feb 21, 2013
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Well there are ample of resources on net for newbies and pros alike.
https://www.php.net/manual/en/index.php

Once you are reasonably comfortable with PHP, try using some framework like Joomla/Drupal/Wordpress.

Try hands on some bulletin boards and then you would know your way out.
One thing which I notice is that, anyone can write code in any language but very few can write good, robust and clean code.

Dont really focus on php,js and jQuery, focus more on OOP,Design Patterns, UML and things which forms structure (architecture) or the program. Read Good Code,Practices. try to improve coding habits, document your code and this is endless list.

For rest you have google.
Amol Palhade
Amol Palhade · Jan 22, 2014
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@varshiva howz ur job going now ???? even i am in a same situation like u ...i got a job in PHP but other are telling me not to join and all....so what is personal opinion
Manish Goyal
Manish Goyal · Jan 23, 2014
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Amol Palhade
@varshiva howz ur job going now ???? even i am in a same situation like u ...i got a job in PHP but other are telling me not to join and all....so what is personal opinion
Don't worry dude, let me give you a short example of my case

I had started my career with 5k in Delhi and but this year roughly after 2 years I am gonna pay tax of 2 lakh 😛 😛

and all this is just because of PHP , which "others are saying have no scope"

Just do whatever you are doing with full passion
Anand Tamariya
Anand Tamariya · Jan 23, 2014
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Well proficient programmers are always in demand - irrespective of technology. e.g. we have immediate requirement for Javascript developers!!!
Ankita Katdare
Ankita Katdare · Jan 23, 2014
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Manish Goyal
and all this is just because of PHP , which "others are saying have no scope"
This is quite strange! Do we really have a better alternative for PHP?
Please enlighten me.
Manish Goyal
Manish Goyal · Jan 24, 2014
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Ankita Katdare
This is quite strange! Do we really have a better alternative for PHP?
Please enlighten me.
Sorry, I didn't get you, what is the relation between the line you quoted and your question?
Ankita Katdare
Ankita Katdare · Jan 24, 2014
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Sorry for not being able to put it correctly.
I mean't why do people think PHP has no scope.
The number of things that are developed in PHP are only increasing. What alternative do they have that makes them think PHP is now old. 😀
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Jan 24, 2014
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I think most people fail to realise that if you choose to go into jobs - 99% of you won't be coding in just one technology / tool / language. That means, if you opt for PHP now, you won't work in PHP all your life. It's likely that you'll have to keep updating yourself with various programming languages.

Most of the people will shift into management mode.
Manish Goyal
Manish Goyal · Jan 24, 2014
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Ankita Katdare
Sorry for not being able to put it correctly.
I mean't why do people think PHP has no scope.
The number of things that are developed in PHP are only increasing. What alternative do they have that makes them think PHP is now old. 😀
as we say in Hindi "BHEDCHAL" People are just following each other blindly, if one is saying I am doing Java, then other one will also do Java, they don't know what is java but only knows java will get them job 😛, funny but true.

I believe if you are doing something then you must have some genuine reason to do it and some deep interest.
Shorabh Kumar K Gupta
Shorabh Kumar K Gupta · Oct 23, 2014
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Manish agree with you. But most of people believe PHP is popular only india and PHP project cost is cheap.
Very few MNC company use PHP . That is a reason most of people not recommend PHP.

I am Magento developer.
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Oct 23, 2014
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Shorabh Kumar K Gupta
Very few MNC company use PHP . That is a reason most of people not recommend PHP
That's because most of the 'outsourced' work is in Java/.Net and testing. A lot of 'product' companies emerging out of India are relying on PHP (and Ruby etc.).
amarbhanu
amarbhanu · Oct 29, 2014
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I think php/zend and other frameworks help to big data process in future web web development, php support to REST feature so communicate more web application to each other so php future is good.
amarbhanu
amarbhanu · Oct 29, 2014
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Kaustubh Katdare
I think most people fail to realise that if you choose to go into jobs - 99% of you won't be coding in just one technology / tool / language. That means, if you opt for PHP now, you won't work in PHP all your life. It's likely that you'll have to keep updating yourself with various programming languages.

Most of the people will shift into management mode.
Here not matter to we shift into management mode, matter is future in php that means it is ture that if you work on php then you also work with other language or script language for web application demand. this time php have more free open source application available for small project and php has now shift to middle size of product development.
swetha rani
swetha rani · Nov 29, 2014
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hello Varshiva
please help me m facing the same situation now plzz give solution ..got job in small company as a php develpoer share me your expeerience is it worth
saish naik
saish naik · Jan 9, 2015
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which programming certifications will help to get good job+ good salary
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Jan 9, 2015
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saish naik
which programming certifications will help to get good job+ good salary
Certifications alone won't help. If you are totally clueless, start with Java certification and make yourself awesome in Java. That should improve your chances of getting a good job and good salary.
Jai Soni
Jai Soni · Jul 19, 2015
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Yea php have a wide future.. if you know the php well and your logics about the codes and loops and conditions are good then noone can stop you.. you can do whatever you want. you can join a nice company and work there and after that when u feel bore with php then come in professional php as a frameworks like codeigniter, cake php Yii... and alot have... you will enjoy with work alot.. if you really interesting in code.. then if your boss says for work 8 hours you will work for 10 hours..
gajendra sahu
gajendra sahu · Aug 7, 2015
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Hello, Sir I am Gajendra Sahu, i am learning php and other tools jquery, joomla, SEO, Angular Js, Node Js but friend tell me there is not future scope in php why you are learning...then i got confused..please tell me what a should to do for better future..
kondareddy macherla
kondareddy macherla · Aug 13, 2015
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Hi,
I am a 2014 mca passout. I'm trained on oracle, etl informatica tool. Now i want to change the technology will moved to PHP is it better for career growth in future?
Yukkendar
Yukkendar · Sep 5, 2015
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Hello manish
Last few months I was working in small company as php developer (codeigniter framework)right now getting 10 k,,, today I met one old friend he said plz switch over to some other company otherwise u will never get high package
..I am so confused,, if I stay in php mean what should I improve my self
Yukkendar
Yukkendar · Sep 5, 2015
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Hello manish
Last few months I was working in php platform (codeigniter frame work) I m getting less then 15 k package. Today I met one old friend he said u must switch over ur platform otherwise you will never get high package in future, I m really disappointed with his words.can u give me some words.if i stay in same platform what are all things to learn for my career..
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Sep 5, 2015
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Yukkendar
Today I met one old friend he said u must switch over ur platform otherwise you will never get high package in future, I m really disappointed with his words
I really wonder whether we should really have so much of influence of our uninformed friends over our lives. Since when did codeigniter or any framework began deciding salaries?

Use common sense.

Let's say you switch over to Zend and you get 20k/pm package. Your friend then tells you that you should switch to CakePHP because it offers more salary. What will you do?

Stick to the basics!

It's the PHP knowledge that matters more over the framework. What's stopping you from exploring all the popular frameworks while you develop your mastery over one? Have you searched on Naukri or Monster for how many companies are hiring experienced professionals for CodeIgniter?

For your information, the salary is determined by your skills, experience and the company that is hiring you.
Yukkendar
Yukkendar · Sep 5, 2015
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Kaustubh Katdare
I really wonder whether we should really have so much of influence of our uninformed friends over our lives. Since when did codeigniter or any framework began deciding salaries?

Use common sense.

Let's say you switch over to Zend and you get 20k/pm package. Your friend then tells you that you should switch to CakePHP because it offers more salary. What will you do?

Stick to the basics!

It's the PHP knowledge that matters more over the framework. What's stopping you from exploring all the popular frameworks while you develop your mastery over one? Have you searched on Naukri or Monster for how many companies are hiring experienced professionals for CodeIgniter?

For your information, the salary is determined by your skills, experience and the company that is hiring you.
Thank you for your kind reply.I didn't search job in naukri.can you say how to upgrade my self in php.
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Sep 6, 2015
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Yukkendar
Thank you for your kind reply.I didn't search job in naukri.can you say how to upgrade my self in php.
Are you absolutely sure that you didn't find any codeigniter jobs on Naukri? How do yoi think you can develop your PHP skills?
Yukkendar
Yukkendar · Sep 6, 2015
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Kaustubh Katdare
Are you absolutely sure that you didn't find any codeigniter jobs on Naukri? How do yoi think you can develop your PHP skills?
No no,, not try to find it bczs waiting for two years experience.if we need to survey in php want to learn node js , angular js or any other js
Manish Goyal
Manish Goyal · Sep 6, 2015
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It's not true, there are many companies offering more than 50 k / month in Noida, Gurgaon to PHP developers but if and only if you have enough skills

Learning $var = 1; won't give you high package, you must explore other area of PHP and must have strong hand on OOPS and MVC architecture.

Start exploring any framework based on PHP such as CakePHP, Codeignitor

Here Basic HTML, CSS knowledge and workable knowledge of jQuery,will also give you extra edge

If you know angularjs, backbonejs then it will also be an advantage, so ignore your friends advice and stick with what you are doing right now. talk to your manager to give you opportunity to work on CRM, MVC related projects based on PHP.
Yukkendar
Yukkendar · Sep 6, 2015
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Manish Goyal
It's not true, there are many companies offering more than 50 k / month in Noida, Gurgaon to PHP developers but if and only if you have enough skills

Learning $var = 1; won't give you high package, you must explore other area of PHP and must have strong hand on OOPS and MVC architecture.

Start exploring any framework based on PHP such as CakePHP, Codeignitor

Here Basic HTML, CSS knowledge and workable knowledge of jQuery,will also give you extra edge

If you know angularjs, backbonejs then it will also be an advantage, so ignore your friends advice and stick with what you are doing right now. talk to your manager to give you opportunity to work on CRM, MVC related projects based on PHP.
Thank you @manish
manoj_ime
manoj_ime · Sep 15, 2015
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PHP is a language of poor people. PHP means (Poor Hungry People).
There is no scope for PHP. If somebody has below 40% marks and very poor communication and technical skills then he can choose PHP.
Manish Goyal
Manish Goyal · Sep 15, 2015
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manoj_ime
PHP is a language of poor people. PHP means (Poor Hungry People).
There is no scope for PHP. If somebody has below 40% marks and very poor communication and technical skills then he can choose PHP.
Come on man, show some respect to others work, what kind of words are you using? Poor Hungry People seriously???? Facebook was developed using PHP and I don't think a harvard university student was too much poor that he preferred PHP

Infact Google was originally written in PHP
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Sep 15, 2015
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manoj_ime
PHP is a language of poor people. PHP means (Poor Hungry People).
There is no scope for PHP. If somebody has below 40% marks and very poor communication and technical skills then he can choose PHP.
What programming language is for the toppers?
manoj_ime
manoj_ime · Sep 16, 2015
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Kaustubh Katdare
What programming language is for the toppers?
Toppers don't code, they make people code. 😀 On the other hand good/challenging prog. langs in my opinion include Java, Python, C etc.
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Sep 16, 2015
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manoj_ime
Toppers don't code, they make people code. 😀 On the other hand good/challenging prog. langs in my opinion include Java, Python, C etc.


To each his own.
Abhishek Rawal
Abhishek Rawal · Sep 16, 2015
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manoj_ime
Toppers don't code, they make people code. 😀 On the other hand good/challenging prog. langs in my opinion include Java, Python, C etc.
Hey! You forgot assembly, genius!
Selection of language depends on what you're developing. Try developing your website with assembly and linux kernel in Java and tell me how you feel. It's not about which language is challenging, it's about selecting the correct language for your project.

PS : I am not PHP developer, I am pure C,C++, Vala & Bash guy.

BTW! I think Windows users are peasants! Oh well!
manoj_ime
manoj_ime · Sep 16, 2015
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Abhishek Rawal
Hey! You forgot assembly, genius!
Selection of language depends on what you're developing. Try developing your website with assembly and linux kernel in Java and tell me how you feel. It's not about which language is challenging, it's about selecting the correct language for your project.

PS : I am not PHP developer, I am pure C,C++, Vala & Bash guy.

BTW! I think Windows users are peasants! Oh well!
I completely agreed that the selection of language depends on the project. But PHP is not good for some security and speed purpose.
Just compare Nodejs with PHP on google and you will get the answer. It is 15 times faster than PHP.
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare · Sep 16, 2015
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manoj_ime
I completely agreed that the selection of language depends on the project. But PHP is not good for some security and speed purpose.
What kind of security and speed issues have you experienced with PHP?
Manish_1992
Manish_1992 · Sep 28, 2015
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If you start's your carrier with PHP its not bad, i am a PHP framework Developer start my carrier with 7 K in September 2013 my current CTC 3.6 Lac and i think its good in jaipur location.
Aksh25
Aksh25 · Nov 30, 2015
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hello sir,
Since 1 year I am working as Research Associate by the time I also got opportunity for testing but it was an user level testing, So can this experience of testing will b considered if I am going for software testing job and if not then please suggest what I should do..
Jai Prakash Baloda
Jai Prakash Baloda · Dec 4, 2015
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sir i am so much confused about to my carrer . which language to choose for my carrer like java, .net, php or anyother bcoz m fresher from these language . sp plz tell m which one is best for better carrer oriented programming language to learn i am ????
Webespire
Webespire · Apr 3, 2016
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All programming lang is best, not matter PHP/JAVA/.Net/Mobile Application programming. Main things what's your learning exposure and logic, you need to become talent every aspect and understand what's you give/write input/programs and what's output you are looking from computer. Computer is a machine, if you write wrong program then computer show you error and give you wrong results. If you write right program and computer give you perfect results. I was a PHP programmer and do 7 years programming job after that today I have a Offshore Web Design Company- Mobile Apps Development | Offshore Web Design India and we have 24 teams in our company.

So never think PHP/MySQL don't best for start programming career.
ExcelPTP
ExcelPTP · Oct 19, 2016
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Don't leave your job.PHP is a website specific language than others but it can give you a strong platform for your career. PHP has widely used server side scripting language now. Facebook is also built in PHP.
In short, It can give you better future in web development. Here Must require good learning skill because without it you can't perform well.
You have to update daily yourself for the growth.
We provide PHP training for the students and also for those people who want to learn this language.
Jai Patel
Jai Patel · Jan 20, 2020
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Friend, job as a php developer will stay forever green and there is good growth further.

The world wide web has no full stop. The best part of PHP is that it supports both front end as well as backhand. 

Gain knowledge of PHP frameworks, polish up your php skills for few months or years, grab your hands on php completely in small company and then hit for bigger ones. Don't worry, what you will learn in small companies you wont get that great explore in big companies. While, working in small companies, prepare your own small projects in php and have a strong portfolio of i. 

All the best future is yours my champion. Go for it. Break your limits 

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