"I wanna ask that what are the career options after btech, actually i am not good in programming, so what are the other job opportunities rather than a programmer...I am good in presenting thing so is there any option in management?? if yes plss tell me in detail.."
This is madness to some extent, because more and more students are opting for CS/IT Degrees and they just HATE coding. So, I would like to know the views of CEans here about what exactly are the career options for such students and fresh graduates?
Let us list down what all they can do, so that at least this time - they can make an informed decision.
Engineering is all about logic & understanding.
So if a B.Tech student of CS/IT, unable to understand codes or can't program or hate coding,then he/she must opt for "Management". So, MBA would be good option.
There are many Engineers of CS/IT field I knew who opt for CSE because Compters are just cool. Pity 😳
Bank PO is also a good option.
Do master/Phd and become lecturer for B.Tech.
There is also a rapidly evolving sector in IT called Business Intelligence. Get hands on with some well known ETL tool like Informatica. I bet it is easier to learn than any programming language. Yes, it does demand thinking and logic in implementation but it is different than coding and fun to learn..
So.. ALL engineers must love coding? 😛Abhishek RawalSo, if an Engineer hates coding means he can't understand it & coding is all about logic, which means he/she lacks the logic skills.
Engineering is all about logic & understanding.
I guess the title specifies about "Computer Science" Engineering & thus I don't think it was necessary to add prefix "Computer Science" term to Suffix "Engineer/Engineering" in quoted post of mine.ashSo.. ALL engineers must love coding? 😛
So, I basically don't understand that, if a Computer Science Engineer doesn't love coding, what is the purpose of opting for CSE ? for playing games on computer ?
Well this is four years wasted
But if that person is interested hardware he can try to start his own computer assembling shop
Or
Work in some company that deals with hardware
PS: There are a bus load of companies which assembles a pc and sells them and so this is always an evergreen field
Speaking from my own experience, though I was good in coding I went for Business Intelligence domain simply because it is more interesting and innovative for me
I understand the sentiment. Though as others mentioned, the computer science domain is quite vast. If you are not good in coding, there are many things that you can get involved in that has something to do with "computers".Abhishek RawalSo, I basically don't understand that, if a Computer Science Engineer doesn't love coding, what is the purpose of opting for CSE ? for playing games on computer ?
Getting a degree doesn't immediately define your career path. It gives you a peak into what you'd like and don't like 😀
i tell u one thing that engineers are fast and easy in maths section so if they go for any m.b.a exam ,they can kill commerce field graduates .. and mind u then they kill many cse engineers in I.T firms as anything moreover getting a paycheck of avg. 12 lakhs. and pity those cse engineers stuck onto 4 lacs avg .Abhishek RawalI guess the title specifies about "Computer Science" Engineering & thus I don't think it was necessary to add prefix "Computer Science" term to Suffix "Engineer/Engineering" in quoted post of mine.
So, I basically don't understand that, if a Computer Science Engineer doesn't love coding, what is the purpose of opting for CSE ? for playing games on computer ?
And still I see maximum backlogs in Mathematics - I to IV. What an irony 😉rohit sarkari tell u one thing that engineers are fast and easy in maths section so if they go for any m.b.a exam
in the end, what matters is your 'PASSION'😀Abhishek RawalAnd still I see maximum backlogs in Mathematics - I to IV. What an irony 😉
Get a MBA Degree
Work in a startup
Prepare for Civil Services exams
Take short term courses in your field of interest
Become an artist - Pursue your hobbies.
The present education system might have confused/tricked/pushed you into choosing CS/IT branch, but there's still time and better late than never.
Therefore as @micheal john says pursue your passion. Not knowing how to code isn't the end of the world.
Can you give some examples of a CS Engineering job without Coding?Neeraj SharmaI think "Coding" is not the only thing that defines Computer Science. Its both front end and back end. I have seen people struggle in coding but getting high pays and work satisfaction working on the back end technologies.
Manager, Quality process, Manual Testing, Business Analyst.aviiCan you give some examples of a CS Engineering job without Coding?
In all these you need to be best with domain knowledge and practical user experience.
Wait, if I am not wrong, Manager, Quality Process and Business Analyst does not require a CSE guy. (do they really need CSE Engg grad here? I don't think so. If yes, what concepts of CSE they will be using which studied during engineering?).Anoop KumarManager, Quality process, Manual Testing, Business Analyst.
In all these you need to be best with domain knowledge and practical user experience.
Testing involves coding. Though not all testing jobs.
That is the power of coaching - engineers get themselves coached for everything and then do well in entrance exams. When it comes down to the reality, they are about as bad as everyone else. 😁Abhishek RawalAnd still I see maximum backlogs in Mathematics - I to IV. What an irony 😉
As for people not knowing to code, to be frank I feel coding is actually the simpler part of Computer Science and Computer Engineering. When you get down to compiler designs, machine designs, hardware design it is so much more complicated, you'd wish you were just doing code instead 😛
Things like Data Warehousing and Business Intelligence are more oriented towards the management side, but to me just seem like big buzzwords today. Either way that is a decent way to go. 😀
so they need knowledge of computers, not Engineering degree in Comp Sci right?Anoop KumarIf " Manager, Quality Process and Business Analyst ", these guys not coming from computer background they just suck at their job and don't bridge the gap between team and management. One of main reason of project failure and these guys simply blame the team if anything goes wrong.
Not the knowledge of computers but... deep knowledge of product domain, flow and future scope is necessary . They should know the impact of change and user perspective.aviiso they need knowledge of computers, not Engineering degree in Comp Sci right?
But thats not at all taught in CSE Engineering degree. Are you not contracting yourself?Anoop KumarNot the knowledge of computers but... deep knowledge of product domain, flow and future scope is necessary . They should know the impact of change and user perspective.
Sorry, missed your points. I believe degree is just stamp after 10 years in industry. Nature of work is more important.aviiso they need knowledge of computers, not Engineering degree in Comp Sci right?
I was trying to say is BA and Manger should evolve from team, who had been involve in development process. But their primary function is
deep knowledge of product domain, flow and future scope is necessary . They should know the impact of change and user perspective.
and a CSE guy should know coding?
If you think that way, how can a BA guy will attach to development process is not coming from engineering field but here you can also find service based companies who recruit all the engineering domain, Mechanical, electrical and train them, even for coding/testing.
So even if they didn't from computer science, they are now involved in development process after training (Here training is only for how things done not the full academic).
Why he cannot? All he needs is a month of training and he can learn along the job whatever required.Anoop KumarIf you think that way, how can a BA guy will attach to development process is not coming from engineering field but
but then why are we talking about BA guy
So? Service based companies does not require coders 90% of the time. Having worked in industry, I would say even a 12th pass guy will shine in companies like Infosys, because of nature of work.Anoop Kumarhere you can also find service based companies who recruit all the engineering domain, Mechanical, electrical and train them, even for coding/testing.
So even if they didn't from computer science, they are now involved in development process after training (Here training is only for how things done not the full academic).
fixing from
whil(some_condition > 1)to
while(some_condition > 1)is not coding.
As I said, it's not black & white in Indian software industry.
It's divided in service based, product based, production support, and at different places you will find different standard and procedure.
neither they require CSE gradsNeeraj Sharma@avii : ETL consultants, business intelligence engineers, data engineers, they dont require coding
As far as I have seen, they cse grads are required.
I have just completed my Btech CSE(2014)
Its all about making a right choice. After couple of years of grad, where do you see yourself : (Computer Science Perspective)
- Software engineer
* Software developer / tester / Analyst / Deployment and Implementation Engineer.
(Cant run away from programming in these fields + Certifications of Programming adds a feather to your cap )
-Networking
* System Admin / Network Admin
(Sound knowledge of OS, Computer Organization and fundamentals of Networking is must)
(Networking courses or certifications are much valued viz., A+ , N+ , CCNA, CCNP , CCIE, Juniper certifications, Microsoft Certifications )
Good Luck.!
Neeraj SharmaAdding to the ones already stated above, I always suggest those who do not like programming to learn back end technologies. They are easier to learn and build upon step by step. Oracle SQL is one example.
There is also a rapidly evolving sector in IT called Business Intelligence. Get hands on with some well known ETL tool like Informatica. I bet it is easier to learn than any programming language. Yes, it does demand thinking and logic in implementation but it is different than coding and fun to learn..
I am afraid if this continues for some more year, I will have to leave the planet. I want a job that is more about talking to people and is in engineering domain.
Thanks to all
I am afraid if this continues to happen for some more year, I will have to leave the planet. I want a job that is more about talking to people and is in engineering domain.
Thanks to all
You landed on right planet, that is CE ☕. Stick for a while and you will not need another planet.Kuldeep VermaI will have to leave the planet.
If you love the code then why you want to talk, probably you need to go to BA line for talking and interaction with people or HR 😘.
Thanks anoopAnoop KumarYou landed on right planet, that is CE ☕. Stick for a while and you will not need another planet.
If you love the code then why you want to talk, probably you need to go to BA line for talking and interaction with people or HR 😘.
Coz when I code, I don't get to know what is happening outside. And you know less you interact with people the more you are in trouble.
well sometimes I think I should get into database jobs.. may be this can help.
If I am not wrong, It's every coder wish. Nope, code is only people you should interact with ☕.Kuldeep VermaCoz when I code, I don't get to know what is happening outside. And you know less you interact with people the more you are in trouble.
Can any one suggest me, I am from distance education and got degree of b.com recently, but very much interested in computers, software and IT.
But very difficult to find the correct path where should I go.
I dont have interest in accounts and all, wants to go in IT sector.
Request you to guys kindly suggest me which is best and easier path for career start up which will be not difficult for me as I am not from IT background.
???sameer89Dear all,
Can any one suggest me, I am from distance education and got degree of b.com recently, but very much interested in computers, software and IT.
But very difficult to find the correct path where should I go.
I dont have interest in accounts and all, wants to go in IT sector.
Request you to guys kindly suggest me which is best and easier path for career start up which will be not difficult for me as I am not from IT background.
There is also a rapidly evolving sector in IT called Business Intelligence. Get hands on with some well known ETL tool like Informatica. I bet it is easier to learn than any programming language.I am also not much good in programming,can you tell me sir how can i move forward in the field of software testing or BI?
Thank You.
Could you tell us a bit more about the experience you have? What kind of work are you doing and what type of career do you wish to get into?preeti patilbut currently m doing job in rural development department.please anybody suggest is there any scope with my job experience.
There are various other job profiles in it industry like research analyst, us it recruiter, technical associate etc which they can opt for.Ankita KatdareHaving seen the state of final year students and the IT industry trainees first hand, I know that there are people who just don't get the hang of programming. They don't know how to code and they simply don't know what stdio.h stands for or difference between abstract class and interface. There are threads on education forums and career guidance forums are rich with queries that go like this -
"I wanna ask that what are the career options after btech, actually i am not good in programming, so what are the other job opportunities rather than a programmer...I am good in presenting thing so is there any option in management?? if yes plss tell me in detail.."
This is madness to some extent, because more and more students are opting for CS/IT Degrees and they just HATE coding. So, I would like to know the views of CEans here about what exactly are the career options for such students and fresh graduates?
Let us list down what all they can do, so that at least this time - they can make an informed decision.
So I wanna job? Is there any field?
Oh. There are tons of options, but before you think that we will give you a list of different domains or website links to apply for those jobs, please enlighten us on what are your fields of interest. Towards which subject do you have an inclination? Have you talked to any of the IT people? What kind of work they do? What are prospects for growth in their domain?uttam shettyI am an MCA graduate. The problem with me is that i dont hate coding but have problems understanding it. Please let me know if there are jobs other than coding.
You need to figure our what your interest is. And then you need to see how it fits in a MNC.
@Neeraj Sharma Is Business Intelligence same as Business development executive?..
It is more or less the same thing. The name of the post or the designation may vary from one company to another depending upon the nature of the project or company policies.Akhila_Lanka@Neeraj Sharma : Is Business intelligence equal to business development executive?
@Neeraj Sharma Is Business Intelligence same as Business development executive?..
I have been stuck, dont know what's wrong with me?
I have done 6 months training on ASP.NET, still dont know coding properly.
Its just because of my interest that i find coding so boring and dont want to continue.
Has make accounts on naukri.com, shine.com but these guys use to send me only BPO jobs or voice process jobs. What the hell? Am I meant for such things.
I want to achieve some good position but dont know what . Its getting worst day by day.
from 3 months , I am unemployed and is looking for some job and life goals .
please help ...................................
If you wish to opt for a career in IT; your first step should be to find out as much information you can about various types of jobs available in IT. I'm sure you will find a few types interesting - so dig deeper into those. Let's say you find that career as a QA is interesting - so start exploring what are the skills required to become a QA. If you think networking is an interesting field - start looking for skills required by the networking jobs etc. With Internet - a simple search would reveal all the information you are looking for.
Being unemployed isn't a crime; so stop worrying and start preparing with the right mindset. All you need to do is start exploring various opportunities and start 'small'. It's easier to do. Be ready for the hard work and I'm sure you'll do fantastic in your career.
BPO jobs may provide you with temporary financial assistance. If you are in dire need of money, you might just opt for one so that your finances are taken care of. But keep learning in your free time and keep applying for jobs.
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I think one of the major problems almost everyone is facing is that they are not really confident of their knowledge even after studying engineering. Most colleges have appointed temporary teachers who aren't interested in teaching. Some even don't know programming on their own!
That's a problem we need to acknowledge.
Can someone share what exactly is the problem that you are facing with learning programming? I'm curious to find out if there's any way we can fix it.
I had completed my btech-CSE in 2k16 and I am unemployed since then.I don't know programming because college teachers treated every student as they know programming stuffs but I was a ZERO as my schooling background doesn't include much of computers and I also just taken programming sunjects as a testpapers of qualifying nature.So please suggest me whether I should try some non coding jobs or go for management as now I am losing my self confidence very badly and feels that I have become a bundle of negative thoughts.Now i find my life full of waste
@Ajay could you tell us what all efforts did you put in towards your career since your graduation? Did you try to learn any new skill, programming language or tool?
If a person is wanting to work in the IT industry after completing his/her B.Tech it's not mandatorily necessary for him/her to be a good coder. In the case of Service-based companies, they provide a very good training program. Where a B.Tech graduate from CS can easily learn and develop coding skills and he/she can be industry-ready.
If the person is not at all interested in 9 to 5 jobs and all MBA or UPSC or Govt. Jobs are the alternative options for them.
Programming does require passion and if you have that kind of passion, it is okay. With Computer Science, you still qualify for any of the below jobs
- Product/Program manager
- Project Manager
- Quality Assurance / Testing
- Build Engineering
- System Administrator
- Technical Sales
- Technical Writer
- Business Analyst / Programming Analyst
Programming does require passion and if you have that kind of passion, it is okay. With Computer Science, you still qualify for any of the below jobs
- Product/Program manager
- Project Manager
- Quality Assurance / Testing
- Build Engineering
- System Administrator
- Technical Sales
- Technical Writer
- Business Analyst / Programming Analyst
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