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@ashutoshglamour • 03 Jul, 2009
hello ,
As you know that corruption is the best definition of politics.This corruption is only due to lack of education.There should be education criteria for politicians.
Atleast the person having graduation degree can only😁 jump in the field of politics.
@shalini_goel14 • 03 Jul, 2009
ashutoshglamour
This corruption is only due to lack of education.
What is the guarantee that educated politicians will not be corrupt ?
@safwan • 03 Jul, 2009
ashutoshglamour
hello ,
As you know that corruption is the best definition of politics.This corruption is only due to lack of education.There should be education criteria for politicians.
Atleast the person having graduation degree can only😁 jump in the field of politics.
dident you know about Satyem. does the owner was iliterate or he was not bechlor or postgraduate?
indeed he was tehn how ?
its not about curreption. it is about personality and their heart.

😎
@ms_cs • 03 Jul, 2009 there is no relation between education and corruption. and educated politicians are welcome in the meanwhile , if the uneducated has the sufficient proficiency means, he/she can be allowed..My point is that there should not any such conditions for politics.
@Kaustubh Katdare • 03 Jul, 2009
shalini_goel14
What is the guarantee that educated politicians will not be corrupt ?
Perfect 😀 . I believe there should not be any criteria on education. In fact, the people who didn't attend the school have contributed a lot to making the world a better place.

I've so many examples.
@lal • 04 Jul, 2009 May be its not the matter of corruption...yet I believe there should be educational qualification! Politicians have a big role in successfully taking the world, atleast country ahead. They become the ministers and take important decisions regarding many issues. If he/she is specialised in his/her field then the decisions will come out to be the best! That would actually be really helpful for people.

There may be cases like an electricity minister dont know how electricity is produced!(inspired from a film 😀) He just know its produced from water. In the film he was dumbed when asked - then why dont we get shock when touching water? 😛
@Harshad Italiya • 04 Jul, 2009 To be Corrupted or not.. That's totally depend on the Mentality of the person. no education will effect on that.
@shalini_goel14 • 04 Jul, 2009 I guess there is nothing wrong with the mentality of the person. Wrong is the day by day increasing size of politics world. You see everyone jumping into that world and reason is just money and fame and say "We are working for our country" I don't understand what hell work they do. Everyone when reaches 40-50+ joins politics and simply sits and eat all the money collected by poor public[ for which actually government is made] in the form of taxes.

I guess the size should be kept limited along with quality people rather than allowing everyone to jump into that world. Quality can do miracles. No relation to education and all.
@Harshad Italiya • 04 Jul, 2009 I remember one newspaper had started a movement against the politicians who have criminal records.. movement name was "No Criminals"... under this movement they are asking to do not vote for the member who have criminal records..

how this movement is reliable?
what if all candidate have criminal records?
@silverscorpion • 04 Jul, 2009 If all candidates have a criminal record, and given it can be proved too, then we can happily boycott the election. Nothing is wrong in that.

After all, I think we do have the right to demand that the candidates are at least not criminals.
@shalini_goel14 • 04 Jul, 2009
silverscorpion
After all, I think we do have the right to demand that the candidates are at least not criminals.
'Right' ? Ha ! We have "rights" for lot of things but who cares for it.*sighs *They say it is for only our benefit. I don't see any benefit for us. Only God knows what good they do for the public.
@callyD • 04 Jul, 2009 In my opinion apart from their history on social work, service and vision, educational qualifications are important. And I think the only way we can ensure that politics is free of criminals is to ensure that criminals do not get voted to power.
@gopi.india • 06 Jul, 2009 Our country doesn't need politicians..We've had enough of them..We need 'statesmen'. People with a vision, determination, integrity..Somebody like the Tatas..
Education or no-education..doesn't matter..The technical stuff is done anyway by the IAS officers..
@Black_Rose • 06 Jul, 2009 There is no doubt an educated politician would be better equipped to serve his/her community. Whether it should be mandatory for them to be educated at a degree level is another question entirely, something which I would have to say is unnecessary. As fellow CEans have already mentioned it is about the personality and morality of the politician rather than his education which will dictate his attitude and mentality towards corruption. Not to say education does not shape a person's beliefs or character, but one can be corrupt with a higher level of education and equally less corrupt without that degree.
@kashish0711 • 15 Jul, 2009 well I agree for education being necessary for being in politics, but not a degree, it should be like at least 10th because till that the govt spends more money on poor student than what parents spend on their children to send them to a convent school.

and guys believe me heart or personality won't matter, the system made to run that person should be good. I guess if we put up a transparent system in places where corruption is high, till the time a normal person gets used to not paying the hidden charges then corruption will stop.

That's my views. 😀
@Rajni Jain • 16 Jul, 2009 Politicians are the most powerful person in a democratic country like India, But do not forget that we have got the right to choose them and its we people only who have to decide about the qualification / designation of those people.

Yes, there should be a qualification criteria.

A day should come when all members of Parliament we have elected are well qualified. It depends on us, we shouldn't see the caste, creed or relegion, we should see the quality, educational background and vote judiciously.

@arihant007 • 18 Jul, 2009 Look guys, debating like this will lead us to no where. We have to get into politics, understand their system & ways of working, & then fix them in their very own way. We can bring about a change only when we get inside the system.

I remember speaking to Mr. R.K. Mishra (winner of Lead India) about all this corruption & stuffs. Believe me he is still one powerful man (with all support from TOI). I asked him his opinion on eradicating corruption. He simply said its impossible, but it could be reduced to certain extent (by enforcing strict law,etc.). So I think corruption is everywhere, even in the powerful countries. But the difference lies here, they know that they have to stand for their country & countrymen. They think good about the country. Even we think good, but we end up doing nothing but debate on such issues.

Its a very big system, which is very ugly. Things can change only when young people like us (with good intentions & daring will) step into the system.

Let us all join political parties or maybe form a party, and do what these people have not done in their whole lives..!!

I am trying from my side. I hope you guys will also. 😀


Edit: Coming back to the topic: Yes, educational qualification should be there. Probably they should have tests also to see the person's IQ level and capabilities of handling situations in life.
@Aashish Joshi • 22 Jul, 2009 If someone wants to get into politics, he can get a degree from some shady university. Getting a degree is no problem all you need is the money and contacts.

Education is required, but for the masses. If people who have to elect our representatives are educated then chances are they will make the correct choice and not vote for the corrupt MPs/MLAs..
@vishnu priya • 22 Jul, 2009 I think,yes they do require some basic qualification
because always educated people will have some basic etiquette.
@jhbalaji • 26 Jul, 2009 Educated Guys do the thing in HiTech ways man...
But i would recommend a education qualification must be atleast B.E
@kashish0711 • 26 Jul, 2009
jhbalaji
Educated Guys do the thing in HiTech ways man...
But i would recommend a education qualification must be atleast B.E
Lolz you mean "graduate degree" lolz
If B.E. is made cumpolsory, then wow every politician will be an engineers, that will so awesome!! lol
@ms_cs • 26 Jul, 2009
Originally Posted by jhbalaji
Educated Guys do the thing in HiTech ways man...
But i would recommend a education qualification must be atleast B.E
kashish0711
Lolz you mean "graduate degree" lolz
If B.E. is made cumpolsory, then wow every politician will be an engineers, that will so awesome!! lol
not bad idea. But BE guys can be considered as tech bonds. What about thier management skills? It is not inborn one.
I think, MBA will be best than BE
@kashish0711 • 26 Jul, 2009
ms_cs
not bad idea. But BE guys can be considered as tech bonds. What about thier management skills? It is not inborn one.
I think, MBA will be best than BE
lolz 😁😁😁😁
@sumitkumarjha • 28 Jul, 2009 There is no assurance that educated people willn"t be corrupt.there are a lot of examples when educated people have performed the biggest scandals,corrupt actions whether it be bofors or city centre scandal or satyam scams or uti scams. It's all about morals and dignity of an individual and their groups/paries that matters!!!
@Bhimashankar • 07 Aug, 2014
ashutoshglamour
hello ,
As you know that corruption is the best definition of politics.This corruption is only due to lack of education.There should be education criteria for politicians.
Atleast the person having graduation degree can only😁 jump in the field of politics.
@Bhimashankar • 07 Aug, 2014 yes ya to achi idea he lekin kesa impliment karan....? in india
@Ankita Katdare • 07 Aug, 2014 @Bhimashankar Hello and welcome to CrazyEngineers. Please stick to English while posting anywhere on this global forum.
@Vipin Thomas • 08 Aug, 2014 In Democracy numbers count. If you have the numbers you are a King, otherwise you are of very little significance.

In Indian Politics, think tanks are lawyer. We are a lawyer driven country. Good at speaking mostly..Talk first, Do later.
In China, its driven by Engineers. Look at their growth. They believe in doing first..

So Lawyers/Engineers, Good education is definately a requirement.

So, Yes, Education is required for politicians.

Let's look at the combinations possible :
Good Politician, Low Education.
Good Politician, Good Education.
Bad Politician, Low Education.
Bad Politician, Good Education.

If we do the number comparison,
1. There are examples for good politicians with minimal education. the numbers are low.

2. Bad politicians with minimal education, the numbers are high.

3. The combinations Bad Politician with Good Education, the numbers are low again.

4. Good Politician, Good Education, numbers are high overall.

So probability that a Good Politician to come out of Good education is higher than Good Politician out of Low Education.

So, why take chances.. Let all aspiring to be politicians, get educated properly...
@Santhosh M • 08 Aug, 2014 I don't think that a politician should be literate... because, leadership quality doesn't come only through education... a politician should have a good administrative, situation handling capabilities....
@Ankita Katdare • 12 Feb, 2015 Sorry for bumping on an old thread. Wondering what are the opinions of CEans on this?

Tagging @Recluse @Anoop Mathew @A.V.Ramani @Anoop Kumar @Rajni Jain
@Ramani Aswath • 12 Feb, 2015 How about a PhD (or at least a basic degree) in political science?
@Rucha Wankhede • 12 Feb, 2015 Two aspects to be taken into consideration.First education as a prerequisite for governance and effectiveness,to which I don't agree to a certain point,second a politician's educational qualification acting as a tool of sorts by which he could lead by example,in a country where literacy is still an uphill task.It can also help in encouraging the confidence of population in general, in politics,which is thought to be a dirty game of fat insensible greedy politicians.Involvement of intellengentsia in politics could find a boost.
Regarding,Formal education per se and its role,one can as well do without it.
@Anoop Kumar • 12 Feb, 2015 A generic Bachelors should be there and after appointment they have go go through a mandatory formal training of civic sense (specially to Samajwadi party and some of Central cabinet minister type people).
Moreover, they have to attend 90% of all sessions, unless there are in ICU or dead. They should be immediately disqualified after the session.
This all should be directed from Election commission. If they are not obedient to law how we except them to be law maker.
There has to be a controlling body to these guys also. In democracy everyone has to accountable for their action to someone.

I hope, Arvind Kejriwal should also look into this. He got everything in his hand now.

PS: Can anyone simplify what is the Political "Science"?
@Ramani Aswath • 12 Feb, 2015
Anoop Kumar
what is the Political "Science"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_science

To build a bridge one has to have a Ciivil Engg degree. To build manufacturing machinery one needs a MechE degree. EEs build power stations.
To build the Nation one can be illiterate!
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