Should I install Windows 10?

Jatin Kumar · 2015-08-20T06:42:08+00:00

I am a kind of person who like to try these things,I want a clean install without upgrading my current OS because i think it will take unnecessary space(Is it possible without purchasing key)? And Windows 10 is new so it might have drivers issue. What are your reviews about Windows 10?

Abhishek Rawal

Member • Aug 20, 2015

If you're concerned about privacy of your data. Then No! you shouldn't upgrade.
Reason : <a href="https://www.crazyengineers.com/threads/disable-spy-features-from-windows-10.82380">Disable 'Spy Features' From Windows 10</a>
Even older versions are equally evil, but I am on Arch so it's none of my concern :3

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Kaustubh Katdare

Administrator • Aug 20, 2015

You may perform clean install of your OS and it won't be a brainer. Just be sure to backup your important data before you do it.

Windows 10 shouldn't have any problem and Microsoft is offering free upgrade to Windows 10. Check if your computer is eligible to receive free Windows 10 upgrade. Windows 10 should support larger number of devices than your existing version.

If you feel little more adventurous and don't play games on your computer, switch over to uBuntu for a few days and get yourself used to the UNIX environment.

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Aug 20, 2015

Kaustubh Katdare
If you feel little more adventurous and don't play games on your computer, switch over to uBuntu for a few days and get yourself used to the UNIX environment.

You can play games too in Ubuntu. Nvidia closed source drivers are performing extremely well under Linux, and playing native games and even on wine using POL is damn simple now-a-days.
But, if you're AMD graphics card user and having any of 'Southern Islands and Sea Islands' chip, trust me with opensource RadeonSI driver, you're going to have an awesome gaming experience in Linux systems. Most available linux games and most Windows games under wine is running extremely flawless.

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Aug 21, 2015

Kaustubh Katdare
You may perform clean install of your OS and it won't be a brainer. Just be sure to backup your important data before you do it.

Windows 10 shouldn't have any problem and Microsoft is offering free upgrade to Windows 10. Check if your computer is eligible to receive free Windows 10 upgrade. Windows 10 should support larger number of devices than your existing version.

If you feel little more adventurous and don't play games on your computer, switch over to uBuntu for a few days and get yourself used to the UNIX environment.

it ain't like I don't know how to do a clean install but Microsoft is providing free subscription to only previous users or you need to buy a key ,I can't completely install Unix because I have to work on software like Visual studio and once I tried to dual boot Kali it doesn't go well at that time but I will try it with ubuntu again

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Aug 21, 2015

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You can play games too in Ubuntu. Nvidia closed source drivers are performing extremely well under Linux, and playing native games and even on wine using POL is damn simple now-a-days.
But, if you're AMD graphics card user and having any of 'Southern Islands and Sea Islands' chip, trust me with opensource RadeonSI driver, you're going to have an awesome gaming experience in Linux systems. Most available linux games and most Windows games under wine is running extremely flawless.

will wine be able to run every software of Windows?

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Aug 21, 2015

Jatin Asija
iI can't completely install Unix because I have to work on software like Visual studio and once I tried to dual boot Kali it doesn't go well at that time but I will try it with ubuntu again

Do you know there is VS port of Linux too ? <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/Download" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Download Visual Studio Code - Mac, Linux, Windows</a>

Jatin Asija
will wine be able to run every software of Windows?

Not every! But most well known one, yep!
I only use wine to play games, 'cuz I don't really code in Windows nor planning to. Regarding other windows software, I have opensource alternatives. So I hardly care about software part. But games! Oh yeah, games on RadeonSI under wine-staging works awesome. Thanks to Gallium9 devs!

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Aug 23, 2015

Abhishek Rawal
Do you know there is VS port of Linux too ? <a href="https://code.visualstudio.com/Download" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Download Visual Studio Code - Mac, Linux, Windows</a>

Not every! But most well known one, yep!
I only use wine to play games, 'cuz I don't really code in Windows nor planning to. Regarding other windows software, I have opensource alternatives. So I hardly care about software part. But games! Oh yeah, games on RadeonSI under wine-staging works awesome. Thanks to Gallium9 devs!

why you use ARCH linux? is it better than ubuntu ,if i install ubuntu will i need any wifi drivers ?because if i port ,i have to download drivers using my laptop.

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Aug 23, 2015

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if i install ubuntu will i need any wifi drivers ?because if i port ,i have to download drivers using my laptop.

99% chance is that you won't need to download any driver to run Ubuntu in your laptop. Most of the drivers are there in Linux kernel itself. AFAIK, I don't remember installing any wifi driver manually.

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Just to make sure, boot Ubuntu as live OS and see if it gets connected to WiFi or not. Like I said before, 99% chances are that it will be connected. Very rare model's (~1%) driver you have to install using dkms.

Jatin Asija
why you use ARCH linux? is it better than ubuntu

ArchLinux is rolling distribution, Ubuntu is not. Ubuntu releases new versions in every 6 months with possibly latest packages in every iteration.
ArchLinux is better ? For me, yep! Because I hate upgrading OS in every 6 months. In ArchLinux, I can just type 'sudo pacman -Syu' and my OS will be up-to-date.

Apart from that, ArchLinux is bleeding edge distro (obviously rolling distros are bleeding edge distros). Bleeding edge means, it uses very latest packages. I will give you an example between ArchLinux and Ubuntu.

5-8 days ago, Plasma 5.4 beta (i.e 5.3.95) was released. In ArchLinux, new packages were available in just 1-2 days in [testing] repo after that, which is undoubtedly awesome.
If you're in Ubuntu, you've to wait for another release i.e 6 months, just to enjoy latest version, which is not so fun. Atleast for me.

There are so many pros (and very few cons) compared to Ubuntu in Arch. But I would never ever suggest you to switch to Arch directly from Windows (Because installation in Arch & Gentoo is totally in CLI, no GUI at all). I will suggest you to use Ubuntu, Linux Mint or ElementaryOS as your first Linux distro (Installation of these OS is simple as pie), and once you learn all the basics of Linux and it's internals, you can gradually move ahead to Fedora-Opensuse and then Arch-Gentoo.

Welcome to land of penguins.

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Aug 24, 2015

Abhishek Rawal
I will suggest you to use Ubuntu, Linux Mint or ElementaryOS as your first Linux distro (Installation of these OS is simple as pie), and once you learn all the basics of Linux and it's internals, you can gradually move ahead to Fedora-Opensuse and then Arch-Gentoo.

Downloading Ubuntu Desktop 15.04,,, 36.5% 😀

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Aug 24, 2015

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Downloading Ubuntu Desktop 15.04,,, 36.5% 😀

Do tell us how it goes 😀

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Kaustubh Katdare

Administrator • Aug 27, 2015

Jatin Asija
Downloading Ubuntu Desktop 15.04,,, 36.5% 😀

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Abhishek Rawal
Do tell us how it goes 😀

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Aug 29, 2015

Kaustubh Katdare
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got stucked at 51% because of some internet reason 😔 , and #-Link-Snipped-# , I will for sure 😀

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Sep 1, 2015

Abhishek Rawal
Do tell us how it goes 😀

Tried to run with live mode,Install wifi drivers by going into additions drivers .
Now there are many people facing issue of wifi connection with ubuntu 15.04
Wifi connection is disconnecting very frequently and it is very slow comparing to Windows.
Some have getting it solved and some are note,it is not working for me:
is it because i am running in live mod?
Is it because it is latest release and not stable?
Should i download any previous Version?
and the name of the Ubuntu iso is:ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso;
the processor mentioned is amd64 ,Will i get any error on my intel processor as i have with kali?

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Sep 1, 2015

Jatin Asija
Tried to run with live mode,Install wifi drivers by going into additions drivers .

Have you tried connecting without installing any proprietary drivers from 'additional drivers' ?

Jatin Asija
Now there are many people facing issue of wifi connection with ubuntu 15.04
Wifi connection is disconnecting very frequently and it is very slow comparing to Windows.
Some have getting it solved and some are note,it is not working for me:
is it because i am running in live mod?
Is it because it is latest release and not stable?
Should i download any previous Version?

I won't be able to answer until you provide me some output and details of your hardware. Execute following commands in terminal and post the output :

lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net

sudo lshw -C network

Jatin Asija
the name of the Ubuntu iso is:ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso;
the processor mentioned is amd64 ,Will i get any error on my intel processor as i have with kali?

You can use AMD64 in AMD & Intel 64-bit modern CPUs. The Architecture is named AMD64 because AMD were the one who invented it. Intel's ia64 wasn't backward compatible unlike AMD64 (or x86_64) and hence it ain't used anymore.

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Sep 13, 2015

Abhishek Rawal
Have you tried connecting without installing any proprietary drivers from 'additional drivers' ?
I won't be able to answer until you provide me some output and details of your hardware. Execute following commands in terminal and post the output :

everthing is working fine ,but now the thing is one of the os is booting ,In grub menu it is not showing windows option and when i
repair windows bootmgr.
using

bootmgr/fixmbr

bootmgr/fixboot

bootrec/rebuildbcd

It directly boot into windows ,Both are there,both are working fine .
but one of them works at a time ,and if i want to use second one i need to repair bootmgr.
As i have read on internet it is kind of issue because both are booted in UEFI mode ,now i don't have clear idea about it.
I am gonna try BootNext tomorrow ,If you have any idea why this is happening please tell me .
I am trying it with windows 8.1,and have located 4gb swap area(Why we need it?).and around 300mb for bootpoint.

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Sep 13, 2015

Are you using MBR/UEFI or GPT/UEFI ? Did you disable Secureboot ?
You won't be able to dual-boot with Bootmgr afaik, you'll need to reinstall and generate grub to be able to dual-boot. Hence, People tend to install Ubuntu after Windows 8.1 is installed, so Grub takes control of the OS. <a href="https://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-1404-dual-boot-mode-windows-8-81-uefi/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">How to Install Ubuntu Alongside Windows 10</a>

Swap Area - #-Link-Snipped-#. Swap Area or Swap File can even be used for Suspend on disk.

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Sep 14, 2015

Abhishek Rawal
Are you using MBR/UEFI or GPT/UEFI ? Did you disable Secureboot ?

SecureBoot was disabled and don't know about GPT/UEFI or MBR/UEFI,
but when i start installing ubuntu ,it shows a warning that "An another operating system is available through UEFI Mode,you may overwrite it.

Abhishek Rawal
You won't be able to dual-boot with Bootmgr afaik, you'll need to reinstall and generate grub to be able to dual-boot. Hence, People tend to install Ubuntu after Windows 8.1 is installed, so Grub takes control of the OS

I had done that ,i installed ubuntu after windows.

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Sep 14, 2015

If Windows is installed in UEFI-GPT mode and then you've installed Ubuntu in BIOS-GPT or BIOS-MBR mode, then Grub2 won't be able to chainload Windows.
If Ubuntu & Windows are booting from same disk, then Ubuntu should follow same firmware boot mode and partition combination like that of Windows 8.1. For example, If Windows is using UEFI-GPT, then Ubuntu shall follow same mode & partition combination else Grub2 won't be able to chainload the OS.

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Sep 15, 2015

Abhishek Rawal
If Windows is installed in UEFI-GPT mode and then you've installed Ubuntu in BIOS-GPT or BIOS-MBR mode, then Grub2 won't be able to chainload Windows.
If Ubuntu & Windows are booting from same disk, then Ubuntu should follow same firmware boot mode and partition combination like that of Windows 8.1. For example, If Windows is using UEFI-GPT, then Ubuntu shall follow same mode & partition combination else Grub2 won't be able to chainload the OS.

while installing ubuntu how to ensure that i am installing it in right mode?

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Sep 15, 2015

Very very Thanks #-Link-Snipped-# for your support!!! finally i am able to do it using EasyBCD ,Added a new entry to windows Boot 😁

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Sep 15, 2015

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Very very Thanks #-Link-Snipped-# for your support!!! finally i am able to do it using EasyBCD ,Added a new entry to windows Boot 😁

I hardly did a thing buddy. It was you who made it.
People tend to go back to windows, because of lil steep learning curve. I hope you survive. Linux is much more fun tbh.

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Jatin Kumar

Member • Sep 15, 2015

Abhishek Rawal
I hardly did a thing buddy. It was you who made it.

i thank you for your efforts ,telling everything without looking at system is difficult in cases.

Abhishek Rawal
I hardly did a thing buddy. It was you who made it.
People tend to go back to windows, because of lil steep learning curve. I hope you survive. Linux is much more fun tbh.

That's why i dual booted ,if sometime i loose my mind there should be something to keep me cool 😁 .
And Additional drivers are giving me some problem ,if it persist i will surely post that here.

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Abhishek Rawal

Member • Sep 15, 2015

Jatin Asija
That's why i dual booted ,if sometime i loose my mind there should be something to keep me cool 😁 .
And Additional drivers are giving me some problem ,if it persist i will surely post that here.

I always avoid additional drivers, unless some hardware don't work. Good thing is, everything works with opensource drivers out of box for my system.

Here is a website, that might help you : #-Link-Snipped-#

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