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@semmalar • 15 Sep, 2013
Hi, we hav started our construction recently with load bearing method and the foundation work is just got completed. But now due to some reasons we want to convert this to column based. Please provide your inputs on how this could be possible.
Thanks,
Sem
@rithesh salian • 18 Sep, 2013
semmalar
Hi, we hav started our construction recently with load bearing method and the foundation work is just got completed. But now due to some reasons we want to convert this to column based. Please provide your inputs on how this could be possible.
Thanks,
Sem
Nothing to worry ,
One of the solution is:-
U lay a plinth beam above the foundation with the dowels for columns , so that it works as a future column
But please confirm with your structural consultant prior to laying.
@KSS Manian • 18 Sep, 2013
semmalar
Hi, we hav started our construction recently with load bearing method and the foundation work is just got completed. But now due to some reasons we want to convert this to column based. Please provide your inputs on how this could be possible.
Thanks,
Sem
May i know the reason for changing Load bearing structure to Framed structure?.
If you are going to construct more than 1 floor. Load bearing structure is not preferrable.
There are many methods to replace the LB to framed structure.
Can you explain briefly? Unless i dont know whether my answer is suitable for your query
@semmalar • 18 Sep, 2013
KSS manian
May i know the reason for changing Load bearing structure to Framed structure?.
If you are going to construct more than 1 floor. Load bearing structure is not preferrable.
There are many methods to replace the LB to framed structure.
Can you explain briefly? Unless i dont know whether my answer is suitable for your query
Hi Manian,
Thanks for your reply! I actually wanted to go for a nature/eco-friendly and traditional house construction and finalized a contractor. Basically, they are maintaining a trust and promoting old and traditional ways of construction. I visited some of they projects and was convinced. So we got started with the work. This contractor only supports load bearing construction and they do not take up any projects of the usual type. But, not I started hearing from a lot of people that this is not good and I should change my decision. I also referred to the web for a comparison, and majority suggest column and pillar-based structure. Also, our plan is ground floor + 2 floors in future. But our contractor says that load bearing structure can easily support G+2 floors. Please help me with a solution. I have kept the construction work on hold.
Thanks,
Sem
@semmalar • 18 Sep, 2013
KSS manian
May i know the reason for changing Load bearing structure to Framed structure?.
If you are going to construct more than 1 floor. Load bearing structure is not preferrable.
There are many methods to replace the LB to framed structure.
Can you explain briefly? Unless i dont know whether my answer is suitable for your query
KSS manian
May i know the reason for changing Load bearing structure to Framed structure?.
If you are going to construct more than 1 floor. Load bearing structure is not preferrable.
There are many methods to replace the LB to framed structure.
Can you explain briefly? Unless i dont know whether my answer is suitable for your query
KSS manian
May i know the reason for changing Load bearing structure to Framed structure?.
If you are going to construct more than 1 floor. Load bearing structure is not preferrable.
There are many methods to replace the LB to framed structure.
Can you explain briefly? Unless i dont know whether my answer is suitable for your query
rithu_195
Nothing to worry ,
One of the solution is:-
U lay a plinth beam above the foundation with the dowels for columns , so that it works as a future column
But please confirm with your structural consultant prior to laying.
Hi Rithu,

Thanks for your suggestion! Can you please explain a little details on how exactly we can lay plinth beam above foundation? The foundation as of now has been raised to close to 3 ft above ground level including plith beam and plinth wall. The plinth wall PCC is also done and the foundation is tight-packed now. Please share your ideas.

Regards,
Semmalar
@KSS Manian • 19 Sep, 2013 • 1 like
semmalar
Hi Manian,
Thanks for your reply! I actually wanted to go for a nature/eco-friendly and traditional house construction and finalized a contractor. Basically, they are maintaining a trust and promoting old and traditional ways of construction. I visited some of they projects and was convinced. So we got started with the work. This contractor only supports load bearing construction and they do not take up any projects of the usual type. But, not I started hearing from a lot of people that this is not good and I should change my decision. I also referred to the web for a comparison, and majority suggest column and pillar-based structure. Also, our plan is ground floor + 2 floors in future. But our contractor says that load bearing structure can easily support G+2 floors. Please help me with a solution. I have kept the construction work on hold.
Thanks,
Sem
  1. Without digging and disturbing the existing LB structure & foundation you cant construct the concrete footing with column.
  2. Lets us take minimum 6 columns with isolated footing. The size and depth is depend upon the soil bearing capacity.
  3. After construct the new foundations and columns, connect the columns using plinth beam(grade beam) at 3ft from the G.L.
  4. Over the plilnth start the super structure.
Now the FFL is the plinth top.
@rithesh salian • 27 Sep, 2013
semmalar
Hi Rithu,

Thanks for your suggestion! Can you please explain a little details on how exactly we can lay plinth beam above foundation? The foundation as of now has been raised to close to 3 ft above ground level including plith beam and plinth wall. The plinth wall PCC is also done and the foundation is tight-packed now. Please share your ideas.

Regards,
Semmalar
u need to chip of the plinth beam with the PCC @ those locations where ur column will come upto the development length of the reinforcement and then lay the fresh concrete .
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