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Maruti's new secret mission: 30 Kmpl Engine

Maruthi Suzuki is secretly working on replacing engine in their car models such as A-Star and estilo.It was reported that MS is finding its replaccement for 800cc engine and it was expected to give an mileage of 30kmpl.It was reported that it wouldbe introduced in 2014 auto expo.Can it make an impact on sales of maruti suzuki?
source: indianautosblog.com/2013/08/next-gen-maruti-a-star-new-800cc-diesel-engine-90609
It would have an 1.0 litre k-series petrol motor which helps in attaining the 30kmpl mark.
Kaustubh Katdare
Kaustubh Katdare • Aug 6, 2013
30 kmpl? Interesting. I'd love to see how they manage to deliver 30 kmpl out of an 800 cc engine. Does anyone know anything about it? What are the improvements in the engine that'd lead to such fuel efficiency?

Tata Nano makers should be listening!
Nayan Goenka
Nayan Goenka • Aug 7, 2013
Tata nano is not getting the response as they expected. Its too small. Well it is handy but feels like an auto-rickshaw. MS i trying to give it a competition. I think Nano will get a better response in near future. Depending on that, MS "city car" will be judged. If they give more than nano at less price and more kmpls, it will own the auto-industry
I dont think tata nano lacks features.I personally consider Nano as one of the best produced car ever.There may be some safety reasons and comfort which act as hinderance to sale of nano.Waiting for Nano diesel which can spin the future towards TATA.

Not to forget MS who produced the small sized family car in India and ruled over a decade but due to globaization and foreign auto giants entering into the auto industry in India MS finds difficult to sustain the market.
Who knows ? this 30kmpl may become true and MS again rule India.
Nayan Goenka
Nayan Goenka • Aug 7, 2013
Well MS has the potential to capture market. But people nowadays are a lot into brands too. And fancy hyundai, chevi, VW, Honda steal them away. Though Nano is an excellent make, it is still behind due to its lack of space and features. If MS manages fuel efficiency WITH the normal features of Swift or Alto, then there is nothing in its way.
PuneetVerma
PuneetVerma • Aug 7, 2013
Well that looks difficult to me or there may be some compromise with life of engine. Do you remember Ford Fiesta boasting of 32 kmpl with diesel engine ? That was having Aluminium Engine Block that used to create problems in heat transfer after 3-4 year of usage of car.
Nayan Goenka
Nayan Goenka • Aug 7, 2013
Every car launched has some exceptional feature as well as some issues. I find it difficult to target one model or one car and say "Thats it." Let us see what MS comes up with. Keeping in mind the traffic in India and the roads, I highly doubt if any car can give 30kmpl on road. Lab tests wont promise them comsumers.
vikaskumar11233
vikaskumar11233 • Aug 8, 2013
Nayan Goenka
Every car launched has some exceptional feature as well as some issues. I find it difficult to target one model or one car and say "Thats it." Let us see what MS comes up with. Keeping in mind the traffic in India and the roads, I highly doubt if any car can give 30kmpl on road. Lab tests wont promise them comsumers.
It seems to be more interesting to see the changes MS will do in their upcoming cars. But the thing is that what advancement are they going to make in their new engine? Whether they are designing any new design or any changes in the exiting engine ? Anybody having any knowledge about this?


Nayan Goenka
Tata nano is not getting the response as they expected. Its too small. Well it is handy but feels like an auto-rickshaw. MS i trying to give it a competition. I think Nano will get a better response in near future. Depending on that, MS "city car" will be judged. If they give more than nano at less price and more kmpls, it will own the auto-industry
I wan to tell your that TATA Nano is manufactured keeping in mind majorty to make it a cost efficient car. That's why features of this cars were neglected to some extend. Else, Tata Nano is launching its CNG variant Car, Diesel variant car in coming time. Even then the car gives a mileage of 22.4 kmpl mileage. And after all TATA Nano is called as the best low price car in INDIA.
Itspuneet
Well that looks difficult to me or there may be some compromise with life of engine. Do you remember Ford Fiesta boasting of 32 kmpl with diesel engine ? That was having Aluminium Engine Block that used to create problems in heat transfer after 3-4 year of usage of car.
I was thinking on the same line,
Few of the basic options which may lead in increasing the mileage can be,

- Aero dynamic design
- lighten the body weight by replacing the plastic body in place of iron / steel body where ever possible
- Use aluminium (ligh body) material for engine

Any other ways?

-CB
crazyboy
I was thinking on the same line,
Few of the basic options which may lead in increasing the mileage can be,

- Aero dynamic design
- lighten the body weight by replacing the plastic body in place of iron / steel body where ever possible
- Use aluminium (ligh body) material for engine

Any other ways?

-CB
You are correct ji but we cant give safety as price.Certain parts should be made by ferrous material only to ensure high safety.Dashboards are the only potential places where high quality plastics can replace(from my knowledge).We can use carbon fibre to lighten the weight but it cost us more.
Gurjap
Gurjap • Aug 8, 2013
I find the lack of rumors about the cost interesting. After all, MS might just deliver us a 30kmpl engine. Whoever said it would be cheap as well? Looks like middle class indians are spending more if they are now shooting for german and american car makers too. Why can't they shell out more for a MS car which promises them style and mileage?
Nayan Goenka
Nayan Goenka • Aug 8, 2013
Gurjap
I find the lack of rumors about the cost interesting. After all, MS might just deliver us a 30kmpl engine. Whoever said it would be cheap as well? Looks like middle class indians are spending more if they are now shooting for german and american car makers too. Why can't they shell out more for a MS car which promises them style and mileage?


Well mate it is easy on one part to say that we should always choose Indian Brand. But see on the other side. It will lab test 30kmpl, I am not sure if it can deliver it. Apart from that, nowadays everyone goes for looks also. That will be a criteria in determining if this car goes successful
Jeffrey Arulraj
Jeffrey Arulraj • Aug 8, 2013
CSK AUTO
You are correct ji but we cant give safety as price.Certain parts should be made by ferrous material only to ensure high safety.Dashboards are the only potential places where high quality plastics can replace(from my knowledge).We can use carbon fibre to lighten the weight but it cost us more.
Cost can be compromised for time being But security can't be

If our design is really stable then we have a new design

Once carbon fibres are produced in larger scale price will drop eventually So no need to worry about it now
Jeffrey Arulraj
Jeffrey Arulraj • Aug 8, 2013
Nayan Goenka
Well mate it is easy on one part to say that we should always choose Indian Brand. But see on the other side. It will lab test 30kmpl, I am not sure if it can deliver it. Apart from that, nowadays everyone goes for looks also. That will be a criteria in determining if this car goes successful
Most vehicles promise one thing and deliver something lesser But if the test scenario shows 30 Kmpl then we can expect atleast 23 with load in highways

At the max 22 in the streets of metros

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