India Would Be Better Without Religion ?

@abhishek-fg9tRh • Oct 18, 2024

Oct 18, 2024

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We have seen in past, the feud between two cultures in India, about which monument will be build at a place, Temple or Mosque. Not only that, the separation of India-Pakistan was more of cultural feud. Few minor culture wanted separate state too, but being minor they couldn't have one.

Not only that, If a North-indian visit South states or vice-versa, they have to deal with classism (And it is not only for south-North, even west-indians & east-indians are suffering with same problem), isn't it sad to see that an Indian feels uncomfortable to move to different state just because difference is religion & culture.
As much as classism bleeds India, we need to realize that casteism is the real issue.

I will mention my opinions in brief later on,
Till then, Do you think India would be better without religion ?
Share your opinions.

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Anoop Kumar

@anoop-kumar-GDGRCn • Jul 20, 2013

There could be long discussion and debate but one thing for sure:

Give/bring a good governance to citizens , No body will give a crap about religion.
So the only real issue is good governance or better say system.

People are getting fooled everywhere in name of different community (it could be religion, cast, economic difference).
Today you will remove Hindu, Muslim, Cristian tomorrow new religions will born windows vs linux.

Religion is just a creepy name to separating community on belief/follower and *people/government use them for their benefit on *follower's blood and money.
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Ashraf HZ

@Ash • Jul 20, 2013

ianoop
Religion is just a creepy name to separating community on belief/follower and use them for their benefit on followers blood and money.
You are generalizing too much 😛

Religion is a personal right for belief. That's why governments harp on "freedom of religion" to settle differences (most of the time).

I think the concern here is tolerance. "Class" is more of the problem.
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Jeffrey Arulraj

@jeffrey-xA7lUP • Jul 20, 2013

A psychologist advised us in a recruitment drive

Religion is a rock in which you anchor your mind to have some stability of your mind
If your religion is not providing you a stable mind then you are not a follower you are a addict

As addict is not free so you are bound

As a slave tries to free yourself, You do all nonsense to the society
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Anoop Kumar

@anoop-kumar-GDGRCn • Jul 20, 2013

ash
Religion is a personal right for belief. That's why governments harp on "freedom of religion" to settle differences (most of the time).
Right ...
but problem arises when a person let their belief control by someone else or try to control others.
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Sahithi Pallavi

@sahithi-oJZaYj • Jul 20, 2013

ash
You are generalizing too much 😛

Religion is a personal right for belief. That's why governments harp on "freedom of religion" to settle differences (most of the time).

I think the concern here is tolerance. "Class" is more of the problem.
You are very right, ash. I agree with you.

And see If not Religion then the Caste, if not caste then it the sub-caste. If not sub-caste then the colour. If not colour, then the culture. If not culture then it would be something. People will get a reason for their own ways.

Religion is just a personal right/choice, that's the reason why the people are changing their religions acc to they wish. And coming to clashes, Not only in India, in all the countries you have one or the other type of differentiation among castes or cultures or religions. Even in US, there is differenciation between whites and blacks. And in European countries, you have catholics and protestants ectcetera. Religous or the cultural clashes will always deals with the above middle class, middle class.

Rich care only for the money, they don't care for the culture or religion. And coming to poor, they care only for food and self sufficiency and hence they don't care for the religion. Religious or so called the cultural misunderstandings will affect only the middle class or above middle class people. Therefore I think "Class" is the major problem. Hence these days our aim is not only for the developmental growth but it is inclusive developmental growth.
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Anand Tamariya

@anand-tamariya-DnfjEX • Jul 21, 2013

Sada
And coming to poor, they care only for food and self sufficiency and hence they don't care for the religion.
Poor don't care for religion - really?? If that were the case, India would have been a developed country by now. This has been a single divisive factor in history of India which rulers have used to their own benefit. Reality check - look at the size of gatherings that religious leaders are able to garner in any state.

But of course, most people use religion in an orthodox way instead of really trying to understand what it teaches and live by those tenets.
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Sahithi Pallavi

@sahithi-oJZaYj • Jul 21, 2013

Anand Tamariya
Poor don't care for religion - really?? If that were the case, India would have been a developed country by now. This has been a single divisive factor in history of India which rulers have used to their own benefit. Reality check - look at the size of gatherings that religious leaders are able to garner in any state.

But of course, most people use religion in an orthodox way instead of really trying to understand what it teaches and live by those tenets.
We are developing. Of course we are taking good amount of time. India is a socialistic democratic country not a capitalistic country like US to develop much faster.
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Kaustubh Katdare

@thebigk • Jul 21, 2013

Society cannot exist without religion.
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Kaustubh Katdare

@thebigk • Jul 22, 2013

Time for me to add some meaning to my earlier post.

Religion, I think, is a lifestyle. Humans needed 'something' to 'explain' the things they experienced - and hence the concept of 'The God'. I'd not related 'God' - the supreme power - with any religion.

Being a Hindu, my 'religion' is about living a particular lifestyle and offering prayers to the 'God'. The 'God' has been named differently in different religions; and I think that's all about it. I'd rather believe my God isn't different from your God. We're referring to the same entity but through different proxies.

For a society to exist, people need to be 'disciplined'. This discipline, I think, is what we refer to as 'religion'. My discipline may be different from yours; but there's no 'rule' which makes me hate other discipline.

Talking about India - so many religions have peacefully existed here without any issues for long. Had there been fights between the religions for ages; we'd have simply vanished by now. But 'dividing' people on the basis of their 'religion' was the easiest thing to do for those who wanted to invade this country - and that's what was done.

Those who really want to understand this - must read the history beyond your textbooks. The Hindus & Muslims were 'divided' systematically by those who wanted to conquer this country - and even after the so called freedom; the rulers have done the same.

I'm not supporter of the 'caste' system - but I think 'casts' as such aren't bad! From whatever little research I've done on the topic - I think cast system was established only to make sure that different tasks are handled by different people. Even in the modern organization - marketing is handled by dedicated team, sales has their own team, management is different, security is different, IT is another team. We don't seem to mind being 'labeled' into particular 'tag' (read cast) in organization. Why do we bother about it in society then?
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Ramani Aswath

@ramani-VR4O43 • Jul 22, 2013

India has got along fine with diverse religious beliefs, rituals and caste systems.
What ruins it is the modern unscrupulous divisive politics subject to interpretations using religion and new castes (Scheduled Class, backward class, other backward class, minorities -classifications variable).
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Anand Tamariya

@anand-tamariya-DnfjEX • Jul 22, 2013

Kaustubh Katdare
I'm not supporter of the 'caste' system - but I think 'casts' as such aren't bad! From whatever little research I've done on the topic - I think cast system was established only to make sure that different tasks are handled by different people. Even in the modern organization - marketing is handled by dedicated team, sales has their own team, management is different, security is different, IT is another team. We don't seem to mind being 'labeled' into particular 'tag' (read cast) in organization. Why do we bother about it in society then?
Good point. This is when symbolism becomes more important than the meaning behind it. I'd be interested to know how many people bother about it and why?
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Anoop Mathew

@anoop-FRTf1L • Jul 23, 2013

Well the topic is about India, so we've democracy to uphold - each individual has his/her freedom to follow the religion of his/her choice. However that freedom should not be misused in any form of manner.

Forcing one's religion on another is not the right way to publish your religion; you can however preach and inspire (aka tempt) other people to follow you or your religion through setting an example. But seriously speaking, no man lives according to what his mouth says!

Caste issues were there from the times human beings were created on this earth. It's not just in India, but anywhere around the world you'd find that caste system exists. If not caste, it's community.
eg: A mixture of people live in the USA, they claim they are Americans because of their citizenship, but on first look itself, you'd NATURALLY categorize them into a CASTE/COMMUNITY such as Mexican, Chinese, Indian, African, Red Indian, etc. So it's not a big deal that Indians within are divided by caste. India should not have been called India, but rather it should have been called United States of India - just like the United States of Emirates, United Kingdom and United States of America - this would have solved lots of problems!

Unity in Diversity is just said than done - atleast it would have sparked if we were called United States of India and not India - just a theory I'm suggesting!!!! 👀
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