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@regel • 01 Feb, 2012
I need releaving letter from my company in order to join HCL. In this company I worked for 5k in begining for 1 year now they are paying 10k. I got a better offer from HCL but the present company people say I have serve this company for 2 years. I have been in this company for 1 year 7 months. Is there any way to get my experience letter from these people?? Please help me out
@Kaustubh Katdare • 01 Feb, 2012
regel
I need releaving letter from my company in order to join HCL. In this company I worked for 5k in begining for 1 year now they are paying 10k. I got a better offer from HCL but the present company people say I have serve this company for 2 years. I have been in this company for 1 year 7 months. Is there any way to get my experience letter from these people?? Please help me out
Simply explain the situation to HCL hiring engineer and ask them whether the relieving letter matters to them. If it does not, just let it go.

Did you sign the bond to work for 2 years with your present company?
@regel • 01 Feb, 2012 Yes , I did sign the bond in the begining. But there is no such thing like paying penalty or any thing if I break the bond. Even these people are not ready talk also. So is it like I have to be here weather I like it or not ..like a slave or some thing?? If the CEO tells to releave can they do it. Coz my uncle knows him?
@Ramani Aswath • 02 Feb, 2012
regel
Yes , I did sign the bond in the begining. But there is no such thing like paying penalty or any thing if I break the bond. Even these people are not ready talk also. So is it like I have to be here weather I like it or not ..like a slave or some thing?? If the CEO tells to releave can they do it. Coz my uncle knows him?
Yes. The CEO can do it if necessary as an exception.
@regel • 02 Feb, 2012
bioramani
Yes. The CEO can do it if necessary as an exception.
Thank you so much sir, thats a relief ....i was not able sleep when i think about it...
@regel • 16 Feb, 2012
The_Big_K
Simply explain the situation to HCL hiring engineer and ask them whether the relieving letter matters to them. If it does not, just let it go.

Did you sign the bond to work for 2 years with your present company?
I have expalined the situation to HCL HR but he says that relieving letter is mandatory if not I should atleast have resignation acceptance letter.But these people are not ready to give it to me. What do I do?
@Anoop Kumar • 16 Feb, 2012 Signing bond means you agreed that you can't leave company before actual period without their permission and they can't fire you. In most of cases you can leave but you need to pay some money for it. Since if you already served 1 year 7 months then you need to pay salary of 5 months in worse case.
Yes, If some one you know at high level he can help you.
@Kaustubh Katdare • 16 Feb, 2012
ianoop
and they can't fire you.
I don't think any company will actually say that in the contract. It's always one sided. They can fire you; but you can't quit on your own.

Since you've signed that bond; your best bet now is to let the CEO look into it. CEO can of course direct the HRs to take the steps in your favor. Otherwise, you'll have to negotiate with your recruiting company for the job. Ask them whether they will accept the 'salary slip' as a proof of employment.

Your current employer's position is stronger in this case.
@regel • 16 Feb, 2012
The_Big_K
I don't think any company will actually say that in the contract. It's always one sided. They can fire you; but you can't quit on your own.

Since you've signed that bond; your best bet now is to let the CEO look into it. CEO can of course direct the HRs to take the steps in your favor. Otherwise, you'll have to negotiate with your recruiting company for the job. Ask them whether they will accept the 'salary slip' as a proof of employment.

Your current employer's position is stronger in this case.
I asked the recruiting company if the salary slip and bank statement of the salary account and offer letter can be accepted as proof of employment. But the HR said I must at least provide the resignation acceptance letter. But the current company refused to accept my resignation.
@Anoop Kumar • 16 Feb, 2012 what you manager says..... because Manager is the person who accepts resignation.
@Kaustubh Katdare • 16 Feb, 2012 @regel: Breaking a bond is going to be tough. Especially, that you're breaking it for the sake of employment in other company. If you've signed a bond, then you must honor it. On the other hand, you may have your own reasons to quit the job.

I think the best bet is to get an approval to quit the company from your company's CEO.
@regel • 16 Feb, 2012
ianoop
what you manager says..... because Manager is the person who accepts resignation.
The manager says he cant say anything on this the MD has to decide. MD himself is the HE co-ordinator.
He says I have to be here for 24 months. Its been 20 months so far.Can any company make some one to work against there will like a slave?
@Anoop Kumar • 16 Feb, 2012 See as The_Big_K says, Do not break bond .
Its not a good idea to fight and leave the company without relieving letter. you have to have relieving letter because your next company might accept without it, but in future if you change company , then that company might do background verification and can raise concern that why your earlier company didn't provideded you relieving letter, and some companies call to to candidate's earlier organization before releasing offer letter, to get feedback.

Either talking to HR/manager or paying rest of money, leave such that , they will not give a negative feedback in future.

And please don't call it like a slave,even if you have signed a bond. you have rights as a employee.
and even if you can't able to leave before bond , 4 months not a very long period.
you have offer in hand then offcourse can make more offers in coming month. One more possibility is that you can ask you next company to give you 3 month to join.
@Kaustubh Katdare • 17 Feb, 2012 The situation would have been better had the company hiring you would've been fine without the documents from your current employer. Usually, every company would look for the documents from previous company and may not necessarily check your all previous employments.

Once you've signed a legal document; it's got it's own value and you can't really break the agreement at your will (unless the contract allows you to do so). If the company allowed employees to quit by breaking the bond; then there'd be no meaning to the contract in first place.

That's why I always advise to read the documents *very carefully* before signing it.

Let's try to find out a fix. Why not try talking to the recruiting company to extend the joining date by 4 months?
@regel • 17 Feb, 2012
The_Big_K
The situation would have been better had the company hiring you would've been fine without the documents from your current employer. Usually, every company would look for the documents from previous company and may not necessarily check your all previous employments.

Once you've signed a legal document; it's got it's own value and you can't really break the agreement at your will (unless the contract allows you to do so). If the company allowed employees to quit by breaking the bond; then there'd be no meaning to the contract in first place.

That's why I always advise to read the documents *very carefully* before signing it.

Let's try to find out a fix. Why not try talking to the recruiting company to extend the joining date by 4 months?
Well today I spoke to my current employer and told him that i m interested in moving to bangalore and its been 21 months since i am here so its only a matter of 3 months. He asked me my offer letter. But my work location is hyderabad only is it safe to share it with these people?
@Kaustubh Katdare • 17 Feb, 2012 • 4 likes
regel
Well today I spoke to my current employer and told him that i m interested in moving to bangalore and its been 21 months since i am here so its only a matter of 3 months. He asked me my offer letter. But my work location is hyderabad only is it safe to share it with these people?

Man!

Why are you lying to your current employer? Why not be very honest with what your intentions are? You must have genuine reasons to make a switch (it could even be better salary). Share it with your employer. Don't get into a mess!

If you must share any document with *anyone*, share a photocopy. Keep the originals with you. All the best!
@regel • 17 Feb, 2012
The_Big_K
Man!

Why are you lying to your current employer? Why not be very honest with what your intentions are? You must have genuine reasons to make a switch (it could even be better salary). Share it with your employer. Don't get into a mess!

If you must share any document with *anyone*, share a photocopy. Keep the originals with you. All the best!
My current employer agreed to relieve just because i said m interested to shift to bangalore. Actually that is my intention too. But currently my work location is Hyderabad at HCL. I will ask for transfer at HCL once i get to work there. Thanks for the suggestion.
@regel • 24 Feb, 2012 Is there any way that I can get relieving from my current employer...These people are not ready to relieve at any cost even tried asking i will pay compensation...Should I just let go of the oppurtunity I got?
@Kaustubh Katdare • 25 Feb, 2012 • 2 likes
regel
Is there any way that I can get relieving from my current employer...These people are not ready to relieve at any cost even tried asking i will pay compensation...Should I just let go of the oppurtunity I got?
Don't let go anything so easily. Fight until you get what you want; but with a cool head.

You have not shared the reason why you wan to break the bond and make a switch. In the final case, just try and negotiate with your next employer to extend your joining date. Were you not aware of the bond when you were applying to the new job?

Ultimately, communicating with the right people is going to solve your problem.
@regel • 26 Feb, 2012 Well when I was hired for this job the HR had said that the 2 years clause is just a formality. But now they are not ready to relieve me. Though i am not in any project. I even asked to these people that I will pay the compensation,but they didn't agree. They say policy is policy.
@Kaustubh Katdare • 26 Feb, 2012 Does the contract document that you signed talk about the 2 years clause? If the agreement does not mention that you should stay in the company for 2 years; they can't stop you. But if you've signed an agreement, then you must honor it.

Did the CEO intervention help?
@Pooja ShreeVatsa • 08 Mar, 2015
Kaustubh Katdare
Simply explain the situation to HCL hiring engineer and ask them whether the relieving letter matters to them. If it does not, just let it go.

Did you sign the bond to work for 2 years with your present company?
No

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