Type More : Minimum 50 Characters Required In Every Post!
CEans,
Here's a quick announcement of the new 'rule' we're making mandatory for everyone. From now on, every post should be at least 50 characters long. That means, the system won't accept responses like 'Thanks', 'Hello' etc. In the past few days, a lot of time is being spent in fixing the short posts made on CE in most important discussions. Our ultimate aim is to make sure that we've quality content in each of our discussions.
I however wish to get your feedback on this. We certainly don't want posting to suffer because of this rule; at the same time, we don't want to have comments that don't add any value to the discussion.
Please share your opinion in comments below; in more than 50 chars 😁
Here's a quick announcement of the new 'rule' we're making mandatory for everyone. From now on, every post should be at least 50 characters long. That means, the system won't accept responses like 'Thanks', 'Hello' etc. In the past few days, a lot of time is being spent in fixing the short posts made on CE in most important discussions. Our ultimate aim is to make sure that we've quality content in each of our discussions.
I however wish to get your feedback on this. We certainly don't want posting to suffer because of this rule; at the same time, we don't want to have comments that don't add any value to the discussion.
Please share your opinion in comments below; in more than 50 chars 😁
Replies
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Abhishek RawalNice move Biggie.
I truly feel that this will certainly enrich the quality of posts in CE.
No more two-words lame posts !
I suggest to cap it to minimum 80 characters. -
Kaustubh KatdareI just setup a character limit and decided to seek feedback from our most regular members. We may keep the limit, increase it or even eliminate it completely if our members say. I'm going to leave it to the members to decide what to do.
The fac remains though - the two - three word posts don't really add any value to the discussion. Also, imposing a word limit doesn't even ensure that we'll get more quality discussions. Let's just collect more opinions. -
Abhishek RawalNo assurance of quality of posts - I agree.
but, surely no more whack two word posts, hence the questions asked here on CE will be in depth & easy to understand, & surely pretty easy to answer it. -
sweet_honeyThis is a nice rule to get quality response from the CEans.
One suggestion I would like give here is that make the number of characters visible ( if possible) as we get it in the cell phones while typing a message. -
Sahithi PallaviNice, Nothing wrong in taking this step. I think we can reduce the spamming count.
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Saandeep SreerambatlaThis is a nice idea. But There are ways to pass this validation and post only good words.
Like I post, Good work and series of return buttons then dude is also accepting the post. -
rahul69This is a very good step to at least bring out the effort and to stop one word frustrating posts😁.
CE Rocks!! -
Jeffrey ArulrajNice thing here Friend
And also plan on enforcing stricter rules in Post in profiles also that is also some times trouble some -
Vishal1485i think this would build up healthy discussion. as we proceed through new rules we will also get result
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Anoop Kumar50 chars would be good limit. more than it might a little bit annoying.
Any meaningful sentence always cover this limit.
char count can be added☕ but if not up-to "code" insertion symbol, its 50 chars😉 -
TheCoolDesiBoyThis move will prove to be very useful. When threads have proper titles it makes them easy to search and reply.
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Kaustubh KatdareWell, I agree that it's possible to skip this rule; but we'll keep it that way. We don't really want to make posting difficult. We're in the 'twitter' era already where people can express everything in 160 chars. My only concern is to see if this takes our daily post count down.
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Ramani Aswath'Mmmmmmmmmmm………Yessssssssssssssss……..suppppose sooooo'
is more than 50 characters.
I shall go with Oliver Twist and say,'Please Sir, I want some more'
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Kaustubh Katdare
Well, I agree. The work around is very easy. But maybe the rule will act as a reminder that the character count is below the threshold. I can of course increase it. Do we have suggestions on what should it be?bioramaniI shall go with Oliver Twist and say,'Please Sir, I want some more' -
Ramani AswathFor long I have been concerned about the lack of depth in much of the posts. Either people do not have the time or do not want to spend the effort to make an in depth reply. Occasional banter is not wrong. It may even give some welcome relief.
However, to some extent this depends on the person replying. As they say, ' a leopard does not change its spots'.
Your concern is valid and shared. SOlution is slippery. -
Kaustubh Katdare#-Link-Snipped-# : I'm compelled to make it around 150 - 200 characters so that we can at least hope to see some more quality responses. From what I see is that most of our long time members don't need the rule. Increasing the limit might just scare away the newbies.
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Ramani Aswath
That seems better than 50. Something like 20 to 25 words. A lot can be done with that.The_Big_K#-Link-Snipped-# : I'm compelled to make it around 150 - 200 characters so that we can at least hope to see some more quality responses. From what I see is that most of our long time members don't need the rule. Increasing the limit might just scare away the newbies. -
grsalviIt seems every one agrees with new rule.But what if some one wants give a short feedback? Like if my question gets resolved & i want to thank as well as mention that its resolved? I suggest add more buttons with" like" to flag a post thank you or resolved or working on it...
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CE Designer50 seems like a good starting point. Its not the number but the message we are trying to push. We can always change later on but I think we have a good number to start with. I like the ideas of our leaders here on CE. #-Link-Snipped-# is my mantra in life and I am glad to see that we practice it here on CE too.
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white_hatOh this is a welcome move.Minimum characters of 50 is just perfect.Keep up the good work admins.
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Kaustubh Katdare
We've that option on the list and it may become a part of the site. Thank you might be a good button to add; but I'm thinking of extending it to make it even more useful.grsalviIt seems every one agrees with new rule.But what if some one wants give a short feedback? Like if my question gets resolved & i want to thank as well as mention that its resolved? I suggest add more buttons with" like" to flag a post thank you or resolved or working on it... -
[Prototype]The same thing was implemented on some other forum and honestly its really annoying many times. This limit should be implemented on the general discussions forum. For technical, yes, this is very help.
Also make the rule for bypassing the limit and its not very long you will see posts like " Thank you. 50 chars limit..........." -
Kaustubh KatdareIn such cases, the mods can simply delete the posts. We didn't do that before, but I think it makes sense to delete spammy posts.
There's an excellent suggestion in this thread that will make it easier to say 'Thank You', with just a click of a button. I'm already exploring possibilities of implementing it. -
Jeffrey Arulraj
I found one thing Biggie in EDAboard they have an option called "Helped Me" Instead of a thank you post you just press this button It is more technical and also fine looksThe_Big_KWe've that option on the list and it may become a part of the site. Thank you might be a good button to add; but I'm thinking of extending it to make it even more useful. -
Anoop MathewHi... *test*
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Anoop MathewIs it effective with blanks (null character). The above reply from me got posted although I had left 4 lines of blank space. Have you lifted the restriction?
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Jeffrey ArulrajIf this rule itself is a head ache to you guys just browse through the rules in Sonsivri you will loose your interest in Tech Discussions forever
This is a great move Biggie the quality of posts will increase and in the long run you will see quantity and quality meeting both ends -
Jeffrey Arulraj
How did you manage it man any twist works or the rule is stayed out for a whileanoopthefriendHi... *test* -
grsalviWhat if some posts require only few short replies ? For example : "Please tell me which are the good books for electrical machines?" or "which are the best sites for Java programming ? " .
What in that case ??? -
Kaustubh KatdareIt's possible to break the 50 character rule and we don't want to make it very strict. The idea is to make sure that whenever we type a response, it's well thought and adds value to the discussions. So, yes - there are ways to get around.
#-Link-Snipped-# : You could of course type why you think the book you recommended is a good book and why the site you're suggesting is a good site for Java Programming. That'd make the discussion more useful for all the readers.
There can be very short responses like 'Thank You' and 'I agree'. We'll have a mechanism to let our members post those short responses. Something's already under tests; I'll announce it very soon provided it gets a green signal in our internal testing. -
Ankita KatdareI am really glad to see so many CEans in agreement to the new rule. 👍 It just speaks volumes about the positive spirit of the engineers here and their belongingness to the community. Way to go, friends!
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grsalvi
Okay.I got an idea how to reach 50 characters by adding additional details.The_Big_KIt's possible to break the 50 character rule and we don't want to make it very strict. The idea is to make sure that whenever we type a response, it's well thought and adds value to the discussions. So, yes - there are ways to get around.
#-Link-Snipped-# : You could of course type why you think the book you recommended is a good book and why the site you're suggesting is a good site for Java Programming. That'd make the discussion more useful for all the readers.
There can be very short responses like 'Thank You' and 'I agree'. We'll have a mechanism to let our members post those short responses. Something's already under tests; I'll announce it very soon provided it gets a green signal in our internal testing. -
Danny Stilloneagree and that's the way what we must to do as CEans, it's remaining us how to make a valuable post, not the waste words 😁.. increasing the effective time, at least.
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grsalviQuick feedback :
1) New rule makes me think beyond what i usually do while writing reply.
2) This definitely increases quality of my reply (exactly as the new rule really wants to achieve i.e. quality posts). -
Kaustubh KatdareWell, what we want is not to try to 'reach' the character limit; but make sure that our posts add value to the conversation. I'm of course keeping the short-posts in mind and I think that process can be simplified. Wait for an announcement in coming days 😀
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whiz.kid.aniketcheck!
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Kaustubh KatdareDeleting spamy posts takes moderators less than a second. So no point in showing us how you can escape the 50 char rule, right?
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Jeffrey ArulrajIt is unwise of regulars to show new entrants how to violate any rule period.
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whiz.kid.aniket
50 char rule: I think the count is less, and why this rule for old members?The_Big_KDeleting spamy posts takes moderators less than a second. So no point in showing us how you can escape the 50 char rule, right? -
whiz.kid.aniket
I m not against it! I was just testing it.jeffrey samuelIt is unwise of regulars to show new entrants how to violate any rule period. -
Jeffrey ArulrajHello big Guy there is a small loop hole here Especially if a person quotes another persons Text we find that the number of character is exceeded and the rule gets wavered Do check it out man
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anshu5358
yes, it is ofcourse a very good initiative. this will definitely improve the standard of important discussionsThe_Big_KCEans,
Here's a quick announcement of the new 'rule' we're making mandatory for everyone. From now on, every post should be at least 50 characters long. That means, the system won't accept responses like 'Thanks', 'Hello' etc. In the past few days, a lot of time is being spent in fixing the short posts made on CE in most important discussions. Our ultimate aim is to make sure that we've quality content in each of our discussions.
I however wish to get your feedback on this. We certainly don't want posting to suffer because of this rule; at the same time, we don't want to have comments that don't add any value to the discussion.
Please share your opinion in comments below; in more than 50 chars 😁 -
PensuThats a good move. I am sure, its going to improve the quality of discussions.
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GurjapWell, this severely limits the chance of Oscar Wilde-isms. But a good move.
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grsalvi#-Link-Snipped-# : The new rule has been started ? , i think yes .But why the number characters entered is not shown while writing ?
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Jeffrey ArulrajYeah Big Guy there are some loopholes worth consideration
Need little modifications especially when we are quoting text -
sweet_honey
Now it is showinggrsalvi.But why the number characters entered is not shown while writing ? -
sweet_honeyWhen I replied to another thread then it showed that characters are less than 50, but in this reply it hasn't shown anything and also accepted reply of less than 50 characters.😕
Why is it so #-Link-Snipped-#? -
Kaustubh KatdareIt would help if you could tell me which reply accepted less than 50 characters?
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Jeffrey Arulraj
This reply Brothersweet_honeyNow it is showing -
Jeffrey ArulrajThat is general Refer my previous posts here #-Link-Snipped-#
This is the only problemjeffrey samuelHello big Guy there is a small loop hole here Especially if a person quotes another persons Text we find that the number of character is exceeded and the rule gets wavered Do check it out man -
Saandeep Sreerambatla
I think this is because of quotes.jeffrey samuelThat is general Refer my previous posts here #-Link-Snipped-#
This is the only problem
Note: The above message "I think this is because of quotes." I posted without the quoted text, and it is giving me the error of 50 characters , if I quoted text it is not giving that error. That means that if we are quoting those are also counted. -
Kaustubh KatdareUsing quotes isn't a problem when used reasonably. I've already said that we don't want to 'enforce' the 50 character limit on users and make posting 'difficult'. If we were to enforce it, we could even put more checks - like SMS lingo, spelling mistakes, thin content and so on.
Remember that this character limit is a gentle reminder that unless you don't have anything significant to contribute - you shouldn't. It's not meant to 'discourage' users from posting and sharing their views. I don't think I can be more clearer on this. -
Saandeep SreerambatlaThe idea behind this implementation is understood Biggie, I am answering people for their questions!
And yes as you told people will not quote unless required.
So there is no problem at all. -
Kaustubh Katdare
Oh well, I was answering the post before you, but you typed faster 😁. Happens!English-ScaredThe idea behind this implementation is understood Biggie, I am answering people for their questions!
And yes as you told people will not quote unless required.
So there is no problem at all. -
Ramani AswathAs the management guys say.' If you have nothing to say, say nothing'.
Even if 50% of faff is cut out the exercise is worth it.
I did get a popup (in rather angry DMK colours!) giving short shrift to my (number of) character(s) -
grsalvi
No i replied a post but coulod not see the char counter.Are you sure ???sweet_honeyNow it is showing -
Kaustubh Katdare
We don't have a characters counter. It might be enabled - only if it adds value. Generally, 50 char limit only cuts down the posts that don't add any value (a generic assumption, there will always be exceptions).grsalviNo i replied a post but coulod not see the char counter.Are you sure ???
In the past few days, I've been working on cutting down JavaScript usage. -
Jeffrey ArulrajThe most common threads which get deleted are these
- Thank you
- Just help me in
- Help needed
- Pls Do help me
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sweet_honeyYes as it is being discussed that the characters of the quote are also counted. Thus it may be the problem you are facing otherwise try without quoting, you'll get an error.
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Smriti JhaAnd here I was, spending all my life perfecting the trait of being terse and precise. Damn!
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Chinu1Its a nice validation. This would build up quality response.
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