03 Jan 2008

World's Tallest Building Project - X SEED - 4000 - TAISEI Corporation

CEans,

Few days back, I wrote to Taisei Corporation, Japan and requested information about Project X-Seed 4000. Taisei corporation replied that the project has been closed and Taisei will no longer be working on the project.

For the curious brains, here is some information about the project X-Seed 4000:

Taisei corporation, Japan came up with a master plan of building world's tallest building (taller than the Bruj Dubai), in Japan. The building would be of the shape of mount Fuji (take a look at the picture); about 4000 meters hight ( :shifty: ) and about 6.8 kms in diameter! I bet Teisei corporation has lots of crazy engineers! 😁

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(Image copyright Teisei Corporation, Japan)

Well, those crazy engineers gave up! But we can't. No, we aren't building the tallest building, but let's started with the discussion about what could be the possible reasons that brought the project to the halt. What are practical, social, moral ( 😲 ) and technical difficulties that such a project may face?

I'm just giving you hints. Shout your opinion/comments in this thread!

-The Big K-
DEP

DEP

Branch Unspecified
04 Jan 2008
hi biggie,

am back on CE after a long time and this is the first post i read. Wasn't aware of this project. AS i see it , there can be many difficulties:-

1. Japan is located in an area where several continental and oceanic plates meet resulting in a high frequency of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
and i believe that even if they have chosen the best possible location in tokyo(where it was proposed to build) then also the natural disasters cant be escaped.

2. what about pumping water to the upper floor?? Hell lot of energy/power consumption.

3. Elevator problem(this isnt my original idea.read about it). Imagine the waiting time to reach upto the top floor.

4. Can you completely rely on the materials for the building's strength?



even with so many problems, i would still appreciate the japanese for thinking something of this sort. They think "BIG" and they do it as well.
04 Jan 2008
Hi Dep,

Welcome back to CE 😀 . I agree with all the problems that you mentioned. There's one big problem I see - how to maintain ground-level atmospheric conditions on the top floors!

Do we have anyone here who's worked on building a skyscraper?

-The Big K-
DEP

DEP

Branch Unspecified
06 Jan 2008
you are right biggie. The problem surely has a solution. It might not have been worked out yet but still i dont think it is an impossible thing to achieve.
What do you say?
Prasad Ajinkya

Prasad Ajinkya

Branch Unspecified
07 Jan 2008
hmm ... if you can work around all the other challenges .. earthquakes, energy, materials, location, where on earth would you find the businesses to fill that commercial building up 😀

what does wiki have to say about it?
MaRo

MaRo

Branch Unspecified
10 Jan 2008
It'll end up by Burj Dubai being the Tallest.
10 Jan 2008
We'll try to have Bruj Dubai Engineering team on CE. 😀
MaRo

MaRo

Branch Unspecified
10 Jan 2008
Great 😁

btw Big_K, it's "Burj" not "Bruj". Burj means Tower in Arabic
xheavenlyx

xheavenlyx

Electronics and Communication
09 Feb 2008
For all those interested and curious engineers, here is an interesting white paper on Burj Dubai and its engineering challenges. Its a must read!

ABSTRACT:
Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies

FULL TEXT PDF:
Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies


I will try to contact someone in Emaar or Samsung Engineering and Construction, the main contractors.

Here is relevant information for the interested 😀

Design and Architect: Adrian Walker from Skidmore, Owings and Merrill (https://www.som.com/content.cfm/burj_dubai)


Contractor (Main construction): Samsung Engineering and Construction (https://www.secc.co.kr)

Mechanical and Electrical: By the same company who designed Burj Duabi. SOM: www.SOM.com | MEP Engineering
10 Feb 2008
xheavenlyx
For all those interested and curious engineers, here is an interesting white paper on Burj Dubai and its engineering challenges. Its a must read!

ABSTRACT:
Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies

FULL TEXT PDF:
Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies


I will try to contact someone in Emaar or Samsung Engineering and Construction, the main contractors.

Here is relevant information for the interested 😀

Design and Architect: Adrian Walker from Skidmore, Owings and Merrill (https://www.som.com/content.cfm/burj_dubai)


Contractor (Main construction): Samsung Engineering and Construction (https://www.secc.co.kr)

Mechanical and Electrical: By the same company who designed Burj Duabi. SOM: www.SOM.com | MEP Engineering
Hey xHx, it would be great if you can get in touch with engineers involved in making of Burj Dubai 😀

Oh yes, we'll rely on you for the pictures of Burj Dubai! :sshhh:
12 Feb 2008
MaRo
Great 😁

btw Big_K, it's "Burj" not "Bruj". Burj means Tower in Arabic
Ah, sorry for the typo 😔 . Thanks for correcting, I'll keep that in mind. 😀
civiLLian

civiLLian

Branch Unspecified
12 Feb 2008
Well I believe there were tons starting from financial but here are some that I could think of:

Steel - Just imagine the sheer size of it, the steel intake would be tremendous. Think for abit as how many steel factories they have to order from.

Foundation of the structure - with its sheer size just imagine how deep would the foundation has to be. Not to mention finding the hardrock that could sustain the weight of the structure.

Concrete - I believe up until now, nobody has tried to cure a concrete at 4000 meter. I wonder if the curing time and the strength changes with height as the temperature, moisture and the atmospheric pressure changes.

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