Fordy McFord
Fordy McFord
Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

Gas Telescope Lend Need a volunteer team to change astronomy for ever

ZzoR-02B0175D-74A9-43C6-8484-3A6649B4479B.jpegHi, I recently found out there were experiments on a gas lens but the tech then disappeared..

Im building one and the first step is 

# 1 metre length of steel pipe that needs to spin on its horrizontal access

The Experiment spins a pipe that needs to be heated, the gas (experiment used ambient air) spins with the tube creating a well which acts as a lens, the faster or slower the spin determines the well( focus

I recently got a creepy phone call from physicist saying it had military applications but did not work properly , it never got time to be fine tuned it just disappeared..

Long scary pause

I found this after i had gotten information from military of a more advanced version im still trying to work out, its said to have the ability to see dark matter


Please join me on facebook page for talks

Gas Lens

07 Oct 2018

The physics is all wonky. The article says that the differential refractive index of the hot gas acts as a lens to focus light. First of all light or any electromagnetic radiation cannot pass through a metal tube. Secondly no focusing is possible if the tube is of uniform diameter. 

I am afraid that this is a scam or the article is not giving the correct information.

It cannot work as specified in the post.

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

Read it a litty closer mate, the gas is spun by the tube and forms a well in the centre that acts as a lens, ??? Light passing through metal??? The tube acts a telescope body and the gas forms a curvature within gas being spun...

Sorry but are you a engineer 

07 Oct 2018

I have located an article in ‘nature’, which describes a different kind of gas lens. Unfortunately I cannot get the full article. There’s no mention of rotating heated tubes or such.

I shall try to get the article through a library and revert if there appears to be a way forward.

https://www.nature.com/articles/353547a0

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

Yep i have that one, the original one had a stationary one which was fed gas and exhausted gas

07 Oct 2018

I have located an article in ‘nature’, which describes a different kind of gas lens. Unfortunately I cannot get the full article. There’s no mention of rotating heated tubes or such.

I shall try to get the article through a library and revert if there appears to be a way forward.

https://www.nature.com/articles/353547a0

07 Oct 2018

Why a tube? Why not a paddle?

If the gas is in a (cylindrical?) container and the spinning heated tube is central to the container, it may act like a  magnetic stirrer in a beaker and create a vortex. Unless there is a gradient of refractive index across the diameter of the container, how is focusing achieved?

07 Oct 2018

I apologise. Some further study shows that a heated tube spinning on its axis with a cold gas admitted into it can act like a positive lens with an aperture the diameter of the tube.

A quarter inch dia 5 inch long COlens is described here:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/6773549/figures#figures

How well this can be adapted to celestial imaging has to be seen.

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

Vortex incomplete, that cup shape produced in centre (from vortex) is the refractor, speed of pipe rotation determines focus 

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

All i need to start the experiment is some plans on a design to be able to rotate the pipe at speed while keeping vibration down 

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

I was thinking direct drive but i want temperatures of pipe to be able to withstand 200 degrees Celsius, so it might be twin chain driven

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

The funny thing is that i found this version after being told of a leak of a much more advanced version with huuuugggge implications but i cant find any open minded people, scammers have destroyed our trust in the world

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

I dont want money i want answers, i do it Of my own back

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

I think its not for celestial imaging exactly as far as I know, Dark matter

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

Something about the 3 quantum forces coming together 

07 Oct 2018

What if you mount long bar magnets parallel to the axis and drive with a rotating magnetic field? You can perhaps think of air bearings on the ends to avoid vibrations. Since it is essentially just the tube weight this maybe feasible.

Alternatively, you can perhaps adopt a regular motor design with a hollow shaft which houses your tube. The catch is heating the tube. If nichrome tubes are available, it should be possible to get controlled heating using rotary brush contacts at the ends.

07 Oct 2018

I may be talking through my hat. It depends a lot on the size of the tube

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

Yeah I thought of the motor one but im thinking of using atleast a 100mm tube

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

??? Not sure if im missing something with your magnet idea, mag temps mostly max out at 170 degrees Celsius 


Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
07 Oct 2018

Im told i think gravity is not a force and its part of electromagnetic force i think

07 Oct 2018

Thanks for the SA paper. I had only seen the abstract in my earlier search. I had a cursory look. Whatever CFD I was involved in was for flow of blood through artificial heart valves. I have to pass on the SPGL bit.

What size tube you are considering?

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
19 Oct 2018

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Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
19 Oct 2018

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Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
19 Oct 2018

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Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
19 Oct 2018

In first picture of stationary heated pipe you get some sort of multidimensional hologram, second picture i spin the tube by hand and anomaly starts forming into disc lens shape?????

What is this dimensional shape appearing, is that normal, if I could post video you could see like a floating multi dimensional cloud


20 Oct 2018

Sorry, but unable to view the pictures.

20 Oct 2018

One can look at a version of air powered Pelton wheel drive with the shaft as a 100 mm hollow shaft.

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
21 Oct 2018

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They are using the mirage effect mechanically

Fordy McFord

Fordy McFord

Mechanical
21 Oct 2018

Temperature is in between 35-50 degrees Celsius OM6J-45925871-D806-4D27-A005-1D126E1C9C58.jpeg

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