CE Downloads Is Live - Yet Another Milestone In CE's History!

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  Ankita Katdare

  Amaaazzziinng! 😁 Pardon my use of repeated letters.
  
  Was waiting for the launch of this feature for too long now.
  
  Too excited. Thanks a ton, CE! We love you.
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  rahul69

  WoW ! This is awesome 😎, really a cool feature, Nice and neat to have all the resources arranged at one place. Good Work !!👍👍
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  We're going to rely on all our CEans to fill it up with all the interesting stuff. I'm already collecting my own tutorials and uploads over the years and making them available through the resources section.
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  Harshad Italiya

  Superb ! This is really great move.
  
  Guys try to use this feature as much as you can because there is no any forum is giving you such cool feature.
  
  👍 Biggie
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  Sanyam Khurana

  Great move , Sir 😉
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  I look forward to contributions from all the CEans 😀
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  arunchary

  its great sir,new advancement are going for new option in CE,....................
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  madhu27

  great work sir. it'll be really helpful....proud being a crazy😉 engineer..
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  Satya Swaroop Dash

  The downloads feature is much better than attaching files in a thread for folks to download. Loving the idea of compiling files and keeping them in a neat form.
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  lal

  One of the best updates/features CE ever witnessed. Sure resources will start flowing in.
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  lal

  One of the best updates/features CE ever witnessed. Sure resources will start flowing in.

  Stay tuned. We're coming up with something even more amazing!
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  Ramani Aswath

  Kaustubh Katdare

  I look forward to contributions from all the CEans 😀

  What sorts of things do we put up? Should there not be some check on what gets loaded? If it is some unsuitable stuff titled differently it may get uploaded.
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  A.V.Ramani

  What sorts of things do we put up? Should there not be some check on what gets loaded? If it is some unsuitable stuff titled differently it may get uploaded.

  Currently we've setup basic categories and we can extend them to suit our needs. I'd welcome suggestions on categories we should setup. Anything that should be made available to our members / visitors may get uploaded to the downloads section. I'll open a separate feedback thread to discuss this.
  
  Every new resource that gets added to the section will first go to moderators and only after their approval, it will be published.
  
  However, if something gets skipped; members can always use the 'report' link to report objectionable content.
  
  I'm in talks with a company that will give us rights to publish a ton of useful material absolutely free of cost. Will post more only when I hear from the firm.
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  Jeffrey Arulraj

  A much needed thing Why not include a sample IEEE format of paper presentation As well And do post on how we can add stuff here ??
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  Conqueror

  A much needed thing Why not include a sample IEEE format of paper presentation As well And do post on how we can add stuff here ??

  The system is very easy to use, but I will create a tutorial on how to use it. Of course IEEE format paper presentation can be uploaded, but members need to do that.
  
  The section needs to be filled up by everyone, not just one or two members.
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  Shailaja Tiwari

  WOW ! awesome feature i have ever seen in any forum like CE .
  Waiting for more such great moves 👍.
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  Scorpion007

  NICE MOVE 😁
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  rocky14321

  hey is there question papers in civil engineering?
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  rocky14321

  hey is there question papers in civil engineering?

  The resources are continuously being added. If you have something that you want to make available to everyone, please upload your resource. 😀
  
  We're requesting all our members to start uploading so that we can build a very useful place for all engineering related materials.
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  rocky14321

  ok sure i'll try my best in ploading civil related questions.As a member of this network ,what i believe is it will be easy for visitors if a separate civil engg department is created.
  😀
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  rocky14321

  ok sure i'll try my best in ploading civil related questions.As a member of this network ,what i believe is it will be easy for visitors if a separate civil engg department is created.
  😀

  As you see the section is totally fresh out of oven and we'll be adding categories so that things can be organised well.
  
  We're working on bringing some exclusive content to that section. I hope things go well as planned. 😀
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  rocky14321

  thats great
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  satty lavanya

  i m proud to be a member
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  avii

  Really good feature. Resources plugin is pretty stable & works awesome. Kier & Mike did a good job with this. And no other forum software has better system than this.
  
  However a preview of PDF file prior to downloading will be better.
  
  btw I wanted to know one thing, I saw this copy right in CDAC question paper PDF :
  
  

  Disclaimer: Author(s) of this document are the copyright holders of the content distributed through CrazyEngineers Resources (#-Link-Snipped-#). CrazyEngineers.com & its owners are not responsible for any type of dispute arising due to content published via this document.

  What does this exactly mean ? CE do not hold copyright ?
  
  I was glancing through the document, I found wrong answer with Q9. OSI Model has 7 layers (not 5). A lot of care should be taken while publishing answers. The document looks really good & one will simply go with credibility of CE & may not verify the answers. So mistakes like these should never happen.
  
  I will go through entire document later & will report if I find any more mistakes.
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  #-Link-Snipped-# : Good that you asked this. The resources have been collected from various places on the Internet and not every resource uploaded to the resources section will carry that notice.
  
  Since the origin and authenticity of the resources cannot be tracked, it's important that we mention that CrazyEngineers does not hold copyright. We do not know if the content published is actually published by CDAC.
  
  In order to check the quality of the resource, we've the rating & feedback system. Members can download and report the errors / mistakes and whether the resource infringes any copyright. If we discover that the resource indeed breaks a copyright, we'll quickly remove it from the section.
  
  The ultimate purpose of the resources section is to be the 'DropBox' for CEans - everyone can upload resources and distribute them to others for free. The resources section only acts as a central platform for the distribution.
  
  I hope that answers your question. Please let me know if you have further questions / queries.
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  avii

  If you do not have the copy right, then how can you distribute the content ? I am not complaining, I just want to know how this works
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  avii

  If you do not have the copy right, then how can you distribute the content ? I am not complaining, I just want to know how this works

  In the same way Dropbox, Gmail, Google Drive work. They don't hold copyright of anyone's work but users can share anything they want through that service.
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  lal

  #-Link-Snipped-# The 7 layer model is just an international standard. But this model is not used in practise. An Internet reference model has only 4 OSI layers - application, transport, network, link. Well we can add a physical layer too after the link layer. So that makes it 5 layers. The answer you read in the ebook may be right unless the question was specifically about the 7 layer model.
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  avii

  lal

  #-Link-Snipped-# The 7 layer model is just an international standard. But this model is not used in practise.

  yes, OSI is a standard model by ISO. and yes, it is not used.
  
  

  lal

  An Internet reference model has only 4 OSI layers - application, transport, network, link. Well we can add a physical layer too after the link layer. So that makes it 5 layers. The answer you read in the ebook may be right unless the question was specifically about the 7 layer model.

  But No. When you say, OSI it has 7 layers, since it is standard. The one your referring is called TCP/IP model which has 5 layers [it is also referred as four+one].
  
  Simply put,
  OSI model = 7 layers
  TCP/IP = 5 layers
  
  References :
  [1] Osi Model
  [2] Internet Protocol Suite
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  All the resources can be discussed in relevant sections. For CDAC - #-Link-Snipped-# . 😀
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  avii

  Kaustubh Katdare

  In the same way Dropbox, Gmail, Google Drive work. They don't hold copyright of anyone's work but users can share anything they want through that service.

  Unfortunately it's not that easy. You cannot just say it's like DropBox or Google Drive. If it was so easy, then PirateBay wouldn't have faced any lawsuits.
  
  Simply, you cannot just share copyrighted material.
  
  I would like to address this issue in 3 parts. [this can be split into another thread, since we are going offtopic]
  
  Firstly, You cannot compare it with DropBox.
  1. You cannot share copyrighted material using DropBox.
  2. If you upload such material & if someone sends DMCA to dropbox, then you have to remove your contents. But that 'someone' probably one you know or with whom you have shared the link. But not general public. I cannot see what you have uploaded in DropBox(unless I have link to your public folder). But I can clearly see what you have uploaded here in CE.
  3. Dropbox won't make content I uploaded public nor it will use for commercial purposes. But not the same case here.
  
  So,
  1. You cannot share copyrighted material for commercial or even non-commercial purposes.
  2. If you want to share, then you must have permission from author [permission in written form is much better]
  3. If the material in public domain, then you can share.
  4. Few authors release their content under CC license & some allow it to share.
  
  Secondly, about CDAC question paper. If the questions are from old CDAC papers, then I think you can share. For example, authors of IIT-JEE preparation materials use questions from old papers. So I think that's allowed. I suggest you to have a talk with CE's legal adviser.
  
  One more thing is, lets say an author A creates a model question & I have seen some other author B using the same question, but with different numbers Or formed in different way. Though it's not ethical, but I think it won't cause any legal problems [I am not sure here]. Please discuss about this too.
  
  I also downloaded one more resource, Interview Tips. I have not seen most of the original threads mentioned, but from my memory, I remember, most of the tips were give by you. So in that PDF, 'you' can have full copyright or CE can have full copyright. By doing so, you are protecting the document from IP theft & no one can use it for commercial purposes. & you can let people share it for non-commercial purposes.
  
  Lastly, from what I have seen in CDAC questions, they are very simple & just memory based questions. Next weekend, I will be free from my work & I will provide more such questions. By provide I mean, I will create them on my own & not copy. And I will give you right to distribute over CE. I just created these five questions from my memory & attached them here. You can use them 😀😀
  
  EDIT : oops, seems I do not upload privilege : CE-CDAC
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  Kaustubh Katdare

  Looks like we'll get into details. Here we go -
  
  

  avii

  Unfortunately it's not that easy. You cannot just say it's like DropBox or Google Drive. If it was so easy, then PirateBay wouldn't have faced any lawsuits.
  
  Simply, you cannot just share copyrighted material.

  If the copyright of the material is proven - we'll remove it. That's how it's operating. It's the responsibility of the uploader to check the copyrights and inform us whether there's any breach of copyright. We'll also respond to DMCA Notices, if anyone sends it to us.
  
  The purpose of the resources section is to share the material which is meant to be shared for free. If CDAC questions (which are very generic) are found to be copyright of CDAC - we'll remove the material from our resources section.
  
  

  avii

  I would like to address this issue in 3 parts. [this can be split into another thread, since we are going offtopic]
  
  Firstly, You cannot compare it with DropBox.
  1. You cannot share copyrighted material using DropBox.
  2. If you upload such material & if someone sends DMCA to dropbox, then you have to remove your contents. But that 'someone' probably one you know or with whom you have shared the link. But not general public. I cannot see what you have uploaded in DropBox(unless I have link to your public folder). But I can clearly see what you have uploaded here in CE.
  3. Dropbox won't make content I uploaded public nor it will use for commercial purposes. But not the same case here.

  #1 : Right. But Dropbox isn't responsible if you do. The same is the case with CrazyEngineers. Our Terms Of Use are being updated and will be announced soon.
  
  #2. If the notice is received, we'll take appropriate action upon verification. A public folder being shared on the Internet is same as what we have here. If a publicly shared folder is found to be distributing copyrighted material, dropbox takes action against it. We intend to do the same.
  
  #3. Dropbox gives you the option to create public folders. Similar to dropbox, we don't use any of the content for commercial purposes. All the material is made available free of cost. There might be a question of 'registration' being required, I believe our current ToS & Privacy Policy already covers what we're offering.
  
  Another example would be 'Facebook' - even if copyrighted material is shared via Facebook - the company won't be responsible for it.
  
  

  avii

  So,
  1. You cannot share copyrighted material for commercial or even non-commercial purposes.
  2. If you want to share, then you must have permission from author [permission in written form is much better]
  3. If the material in public domain, then you can share.
  4. Few authors release their content under CC license & some allow it to share.

  #1: Correct. That applies to individual contributors of the resources section. But as a company, we aren't responsible for what people have shared.
  
  #2: Right.
  
  #3: Right.
  
  #4: Right. The idea here is to let people share what they've created or what's available in the public domain.
  
  If someone claims the copyright for CDAC questions - the relevant resource will be deleted from our section.
  
  

  avii

  Secondly, about CDAC question paper. If the questions are from old CDAC papers, then I think you can share. For example, authors of IIT-JEE preparation materials use questions from old papers. So I think that's allowed. I suggest you to have a talk with CE's legal adviser.

  It's not about old or recent question papers, to the best of my knowledge. There are questions in the public domain and it's difficult to trace their original copyright holder. In order to claim the copyright, the claim will have to bear a strong evidence of the original creator of the questions.
  
  

  avii

  One more thing is, lets say an author A creates a model question & I have seen some other author B using the same question, but with different numbers Or formed in different way. Though it's not ethical, but I think it won't cause any legal problems [I am not sure here]. Please discuss about this too.

  Again, author A will have to prove that he/she is the first creator of the content and has strong intentions of pursuing legal action against author 'B'.
  
  

  avii

  I also downloaded one more resource, Interview Tips. I have not seen most of the original threads mentioned, but from my memory, I remember, most of the tips were give by you. So in that PDF, 'you' can have full copyright or CE can have full copyright. By doing so, you are protecting the document from IP theft & no one can use it for commercial purposes. & you can let people share it for non-commercial purposes.

  The interview resource is a collection of various posts I've made in the past few years. I hold the original copyright but I've released it in public domain. I don't mind if people use it for commercial purposes.
  
  

  avii

  Lastly, from what I have seen in CDAC questions, they are very simple & just memory based questions. Next weekend, I will be free from my work & I will provide more such questions. By provide I mean, I will create them on my own & not copy. And I will give you right to distribute over CE. I just created these five questions from my memory & attached them here. You can use them 😀😀
  
  EDIT : oops, seems I do not upload privilege : CE-CDAC

  You can create new questions and make them available for download. In fact, that'd be absolutely great! 😀
  
  You do have the rights to upload. If you're facing issues, let me know. I'll look into it.
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  avii

  I believe everything has been thoroughly considered before starting Resources. 👍
  
  I will add questions whenever time permits 😀