If I were the admin/mod of CE...

[durga]

Is it like we are unable to under what Big K is trying to convey or the other way around?
users who did not log in for ages, won't log back in!

We arent asking to deactivate users whose probabilit of posting might increase , we are just asking to remove all those who are really not adding value in any sense. CE family building is all about value addition right?
So what is the whole point in retaining people who are not interested to move forward with us?
Drop them! pick new ones and keep going, we can't carry junk where ever we go right? we carry stuff what we think is necessary..

May be need to understand Biggies point of view with more clarity...
we might run a bit low on NUMBERS , but then it would give us a satisfaction that the numbers what we see are actaully people who are with us!

[The_Big_K]

I just made quick checks and found out that about 20500 registered members have not posted on CE. How can we make them come back and be active here?

[The_Big_K]

Addendum:

I seriously do not like the idea of removing members. Instead, why not come up with better ideas to make them active? What say you?

[durga]

I just made quick checks and found out that about 20500 registered members have not posted on CE. How can we make them come back and be active here?

that explains quite a lot! i mean we have 15000people who actaully posted! and might post! thats really not a terrible number
Biggie if they were interested, they would have come back!
we cant give incentives to every one of them right?
drop them! trust me , we will get nice new CEans again who are much more enthusaitic and active..

[ash]

Hey, we are a democracy! Lets vote.. who is FOR deleting old and very inactive (0 post) members?

*hundred CEans puts their hands up*

who is against?

*biggie puts his hand up*

Ah ha! See! Then we should.... *biggie bans ash*

[The_Big_K]

@Durga:

drop them! trust me , we will get nice new CEans again who are much more enthusaitic and active..

I'm bit adamant. Tell me how?

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@ash: . It's democracy but we can't always go with the public opinion. Some decisions are to be taken against public opinion; it's for the benefit of community. Quoting our registration count gets us lot of attention which we need to attract even more people. Look at the numbers. About 20,000 have posted on CE! The number also gets us attention from the media and the press.

Call it a weasel technique, but it helps - and we need it to keep CE growing. Moreover, the number of inactive users are not obstacle in our progress.

[durga]

@Durga:



I'm bit adamant. Tell me how?

Sorry??
You are VERY adamant!!
*durga joins Ash is Banned team*

I joined in OCT, yup we have had many registrations ,but then i have seen many people staying back with CE . So I believe even if growth is a bit slow, it will be steady.
My confidence is from what i have been seeing here since I joined. I guess many will agree with me

[The_Big_K]

@ Durga: You haven't yet answered my question. How does deleting the inactive users help us?

[durga]

Call it a weasel technique, but it helps - and we need it to keep CE growing. Moreover, the number of inactive users are not obstacle in our progress.

I don't know if it obstructs our progress or not, But I some how feel the average activity ratio is diluted because of it.We just keep on saying we have 40K people, but how much output has actaulyl coem from these 40K?
I guess activity was mainly because of very few percentile of users.So instead of living under a shadow of 40K we can as well live with 15K? we have anyways been interacting only with 15K? Are we actually retaining people only for numbers purpose?

Its just doing a health check at very step.

I am yet to understand why we need media attention.
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may be as an Founder of CE, you have different views.
Its anyways your decision as some times Big K says" democracy always doesnot work"

[The_Big_K]

It's always there. Almost all content websites follow the 1% rule which says, only 1% of the people visiting a website will add content to the website. I read it in some Web 2.0 presentation; don't remember the reference.

Look at following references:

Historically, this algorithm appears to have favored the site's most active participants. Last year, the top 100 Diggers submitted 44 percent of the site's top stories. In 2006, they were responsible for 56 percent.

Taken from: Digg, Wikipedia, and the myth of Web 2.0 democracy. - By Chris Wilson - Slate Magazine

Also: Augmented Social Cognition: Long Tail of user participation in Wikipedia

The Power of Digg Top Users (One Year Later)

Must Read: tiara.org » Blog Archive » What percent of users contribute content?

See, this will always be the case. Inactive users don't harm us; instead they help us get more users - 1% of them will be responsible for taking CE to next level.

We do need media attention. It's essential for our growth; getting sponsors and making money. CE does not intend to limit itself to an online website.

In the end; I know you do not like me being (very) adamant about retaining the inactive users. But it's being done on purpose for the benefit of CE. I hope someone appreciates it.

I hope to retain your trust in me & CE.