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Old 4th October 2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: How Many of You People are Aware of Air-Run Engines

What the hell?

Dude, theBuginYou! Are you serious are horsing around? Yes a few of us do know what air-run engines are and I just saw one today on youtube and its working is an amazing idea but but but CMON!!!

If you are interested in this then get some information like when was it first made and who made it and where (ITALY, yes first produced in italy) and then why dont we use a normal engine (It will blowup on your face thats why) and what are the major design changes in the new engine! Post this info here.

Things like this so that the people who read this post can actually contribute something...and help each other...

So cmon, you are the one who started this thread so lead us now! And dont worry about people asking for the whole "Project" idea, it will take them 10 years of commonman salery to actually fund the project...and construct an engine from scratch.
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Arrow How Many of You People are Aware of Air-Run Engines

How it works


This engines have attracted much curiosity and prompted many questions. For various reasons, one of which is industrial secrecy, we havenīt published all technical details on this site.

However, over the coming months, just before we begin serial production, weīve decided to reproduce an unprecedented amount of information and data on the famous "MDI Air Car".

After ten years of research and development of pollution-free engines and cars powered by compressed air, MDI is proud to present:



This way, enough time is given to create the pressure in the cylinder. The torque is also better so the force exerted on the crankshaft is less substantial than in a classic system.



Gear changes are automatic, powered by an electronic system developed by MDI. A computer which controls the speed of the car is effectively continuously changing gears . The latest of many previous versions, this gearbox achieves the objective of seamless changes and mimimal energy consumption.

Moto-alternator
The moto-alternator connects the engine to the gearbox. It has many functions:
It supports the CATīs motor to allow the tanks to be refilled.
As an alternator it produces brake power
It starts the vehicle and provides extra power when necessary.
mileage and general running
Much has been said and written about the mileage of our vehicles and there has generally been a lot of unfounded speculation about the use of compressed air.

We have never claimed that the thermodynamic graphs of our engines would be adiabatic (nor are they isothermic). Mileage presents no problem - the volume and pressure of air in the car can be increased considerably. (by changing the tank size or the air pressure). The data published at this link, should help to re-establish the truth and give definitive information on these two points.


An exclusive technology for truly clean vehicles:
Engines
A range of pollution-free vehicles
Innovative industrialization and commercialization concepts
Zero-pollution urban transportation concept
Power generation sets
Co-energy generation
Marine engines



Distribution and valves
To ensure smooth running and to opitimize energy efficiency, our engines use a simple electromagnetic distribution system which controls the flow of air into the engine.


The basic principles of the CATīs 34 Engine

This engine was developed between the end of 2001 and the beginning of 2002. It uses an innovative system to control the movement of the 2nd generation pistons and one single crankshaft. The pistons work in two stages: one motor stage and one intermediate stage of compression/expansion.

The engine has 4 two-stage pistons, i.e. 8 compression and/or expansion chambers. They have two functions: to compress ambient air and refill the storage tanks; and to make successive expansions (reheating air with ambient thermal energy) thereby approaching isothermic expansion.




Its flywheel is equipped with a 5kW electric moto-alternator. This motor is simultaneously:
the motor to compress air
the starting motor
the alternator for recharging the battery
an electric moderator/brake
a temporary power supply (e.g. for parking)
No clutch is necessary. The engine is idle when the car is stationary and the vehicle is started by the magnetic plate which re-engages the compressed air. Parking manoeuvres are powered by the electric motor.

The CATīs 34 P04 engine is equipped with patented variable-volume butts and a dynamic variable-volume volumetric reducer.


The dual energy system

The Series 34 CATīs engines can be equipped with and run on dual energies - fossil fuels and compressed air - and incorporate a reheating mechanism (a continuous combustion system, easily controlled to minimize pollution) between the storage tank and the engine.

This mechanism allows the engine to run exclusively on fossil fuel which permits compatible autonomy on the road.

While the car is running on fossil fuel, the compressor refills the compressed air tanks. The control system maintains a zero-pollution emission in the city at speeds up to 60 km/h.



AS PER MY PROMISE HERE IS THE 3D ANIMATION VIDEO OF THE ENGINE WORKING....
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FOR ANYMORE DOUBTS AND CLARIFICATIONS FEEL FREE TO ASK ME...


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You may have a Working Demo Video Here....
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Hi
I Want To Know How Air Run Engine Works
If U Can Give Me Some Technical Information About This Engine
And If U Know Something About Six Stroke Engine
Please -please Tell Me
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Default Re: How Many of You People are Aware of Air-Run Engines

gr8....

I am trying to design this as my engg. project.

anybody knw hw much is the estimated cost of this project?

I am inviting all engineers for the further discussion of this thread....
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gr8....

I am trying to design this as my engg. project.

anybody knw hw much is the estimated cost of this project?

I am inviting all engineers for the further discussion of this thread....

Kool da
The Estimated Cost may range between 4-7 Lakhs for designig a single cylinder 50mm Bore Dia Engine. Its due to the new designing of the crank and pistonheads.
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4-7 lakhs..........
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Do u have any other project idea ?
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I forgot to tell....

My group selected this as our engg project . Both min project and main project .

There are 8 members in my team . Divided into 2 groups (4+4) .

Mini Project

The first group going to conduct a feasibility study about the engine and air compressor .

The second group designing the engine based on this study.

Main Project

combining the above 2 result and fabrication


So we need help abt technical ideas.

I will update this section regularly with our results..

Hope all of you help us....

Lets start and design a air run engine....
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Hey...(TheBugInYou)

I need your email id .I can't PM u. It shows the following error

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It is not possible to discuss everything here .

Please give ur gmail or email id

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