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Old 2nd July 2007, 04:17 AM
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Hi CEans,
The topic of discussion with this post is "The Dimentional Pattern". With this post i have tried to create a pattern with the Dimentions. I mean to say, when we jump from 1 dimention to another and from another to yet another dimention, what is the actual pattern which follows.

This is interesting yet confusing topic . Ya true, confusing but simple . Ok here is the analysis part. I'll try to keep it simple, as i myself am not a physist.

Lets take an ant as a 1-Dimentional creature walking on a news paper, a 2-Dimentional structure. Now lets say the ant starts its journey from one end to another end of the newspaper and finishes the journey in 15 minutes. Wow, now thats a lot of sweating for our miss ant . So in a 2 dimentional world, its 15 Minutes for our miss ant to traverse a newspaper .

Now take the destination end of newspaper and fold it to the starting end, from where our miss ant started her journey. Now it just take a step, a smallest step of the millinium, and our ant traverses the whole newspaper. So in a 3-Dimentional world, it took her a second comapered to 900 seconds in a 2-Dimentional world . Yes, the folded newspaper is a 3-Dimentional structure.

Now think of man as an ant. A 3-dimentional ant. TIME as most of us know is the Fourth Dimention. So when a child is born, it takes on an average 20-25 years for him/her to become an adult. Now if we some how are able to bend and fold this time, the probably the child would traverse 20-25 years in a step. Woa, Time Travel. Ya this is what we call Time Travel. The vice versa is also true, the man can reach his childhood in the same way . This new dimention is 5th-Dimention.

So let me see what's the pattern being followed. If a Nth-Dimentional object travels in a (N+1)th Dimentional space, and this space is folded so that the beginning and the end poitions coincides, the object reaches (N+2)th Dimention.


Although the human mind comprehends the universe with three spatial dimensions, some theories in physics, including string theory, include the idea that there are additional spatial dimensions. Such theories suggest that there may be a specific number of spatial dimensions such as 10.


I hope i have not confused my audience here .

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Unfortunately , you have one (to start with) .

I see a new idea being presented. Can you elaborate a bit more on -
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Now think of man as an ant. A 3-dimentional ant. TIME as most of us know is the Fourth Dimention. So when a child is born, it takes on an average 20-25 years for him/her to become an adult. Now if we some how are able to bend and fold this time, the probably the child would traverse 20-25 years in a step. Woa, Time Travel. Ya this is what we call Time Travel. The vice versa is also true, the man can reach his childhood in the same way . This new dimention is 5th-Dimention.
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Unfortunately , you have one (to start with) .

I see a new idea being presented. Can you elaborate a bit more on -
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Somewhere on the internet, people talked about the 10th dimension
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Unfortunately , you have one (to start with) .

I see a new idea being presented. Can you elaborate a bit more on -
Great going CEans

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Hi CEans,
Thanks for the prompt responce . Ok, here it is. Lets see the whole lifetime of an Individual as a large sheet of newspaper, a 2-dimentional space analogous to the 4-Dimention (TIME).
The individual is born at one end of the sheet and travels at his pace in time to become a doctor over a period of 25 Years. Now sudddenly he feels he should not have been a 25 year doctor but a 25 year old engineer. But to become an engineer he would have to study more and he would cross 25 years.
But this could be achieved, if we bend curl the TIME (our life span sheet of the Individual) to the position in past where he makes the decision to become a doctor. This way, the Individual, directly takes a transfer to that event and makes a decision to become an Engineer .
Thus travelling time in a matter of seconds and changing his/her past.
This phenomenon is also called a "WORMHOLE". In physics, a wormhole is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that is essentially a 'shortcut' through space and time. A wormhole has at least two mouths which are connected to a single throat. If the wormhole is traversable, matter can 'travel' from one mouth to the other by passing through the throat. While there is no observational evidence for wormholes, spacetimes containing wormholes are known to be valid solutions in general relativity.


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wow.. amaZing stuff rpkash.. i have seen a program on multidimensions on discovery channel.. is it practically possible??
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wow.. amaZing stuff rpkash.. i have seen a program on multidimensions on discovery channel.. is it practically possible??
Hi Vikki,
Well we have 3 Dimentions in front of us....so i feel its possible. If only i would have taken my science classes so sincerely, i could have been a part of team who might make this possible . Though, am trying my hands on science now. Better late than never.
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I personally believe thats not possible

See, time is a dimension which we can in no way control, The 2nd or 3rd law of thermodynamics, I think rpkash will know is, the entropy of the universe always increases! That is heat is always released, a cold coffee can never get hot. How is this related?

Well, thats how time is, if you did 'move' the 4th dimension (time) then you would be disturbing the 3rd dimension space in the past. Which is clearly not possible. It might lead to the Chaos theory, you know the butterfly effect!

Please rpkash, I think you know what I am talking, if not look it up and explain, Im getting wrinkles in my brain!
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I personally believe thats not possible

See, time is a dimension which we can in no way control, The 2nd or 3rd law of thermodynamics, I think rpkash will know is, the entropy of the universe always increases! That is heat is always released, a cold coffee can never get hot. How is this related?

Well, thats how time is, if you did 'move' the 4th dimension (time) then you would be disturbing the 3rd dimension space in the past. Which is clearly not possible. It might lead to the Chaos theory, you know the butterfly effect!

Please rpkash, I think you know what I am talking, if not look it up and explain, Im getting wrinkles in my brain!
Hi XheavenlyX,

A centuary back, people thought that Flying is impossible, reaching moon is impossible, talkig with each other from the two side of the globe is impossible. But trust me, Science made it all possible. Conceptually scientists have told time has a better chance of being called the 4th Dimention, but then we can overrule the possibility of other dimentions.

We are just 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% or even less part of the universe but almost the 99.999999999999999999999999999999% of the universe is known to us. So only when we know atleast 50% of the whole universe only then we can say what possible and whats impossible.

But then bending time might sound impossible to you but scientists have proved through equation that if an object can somehow attain the speed of light, rather more than that, then we can travel past, which is just like bending the time . Believe me someday, the cold coffee would turn hot .

Friend, just believe, that would do wonders and answer millions of unanswered questions .
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I personally believe thats not possible

See, time is a dimension which we can in no way control, The 2nd or 3rd law of thermodynamics, I think rpkash will know is, the entropy of the universe always increases! That is heat is always released, a cold coffee can never get hot. How is this related?

Well, thats how time is, if you did 'move' the 4th dimension (time) then you would be disturbing the 3rd dimension space in the past. Which is clearly not possible. It might lead to the Chaos theory, you know the butterfly effect!

Please rpkash, I think you know what I am talking, if not look it up and explain, Im getting wrinkles in my brain!
Hi XheavenlyX,

About entropy theory, well who m i to challenge such concepts. But i can solve that reheating of coffee thing. Put your coffee near an active volcano area, and see the cold coffee boiling and sooner vanishing without anyone drinking it . So heat travels from one body to another, so this coffee problem depends on the surrounding where it is kept. In Space, it would keep its temperature intact . Whatever jokes apart, you are right about the entropy and chaos theroy, but then whatever theory we have, it true for our world and its proved in just our realms of known area.

There are millions and trillions of unexplored universe where prolly these theories might b just a piece of junk. Thats y when we stop thinking, the science wud die .

Think and belief, and we can enter a new world .

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Believe me someday, the cold coffee would turn hot .
That line actually is kinda nice. I wish that can happen. I do believe a lot is going to happen some time or another, even as far as paranormal abilities. But thats something we cant even talk about in any manner since we cannot see the paranormal.

anyway, yea the coffee near vollcano is fine, I wasnt talking about that. If you notice, the volcano is releasing heat and the environment is getting hotter too! I was saying if a sitting coffee can get hot while cooling the surrounding, the opposte of thermodinemic laws. (Normal is hot coffee getting cold and the surrounding getting hot) I think you can understand what I am saying, in Thermodynamics thats a normal real world system, heat flow is towards the universe. Stephen Hawking in his book (Brief History of Time) calls this the 'arrow of time'.

Now about time travel, I believe in one thing, and I know i may be wrong, that it MIGHT BE possible to SEE the past, dont know how, but yea it might.

BUT even Einstine did not actually explain it , nor did Stephen Hawking! They just said if u go at the speed of light (nearing) then time will slow down, and AT the speed of light, the mass goes to inf, or something like that. Ok that appart.

From my understanding, if someone physically does go back, then the order of things back then are disturbed, OR it can be possible then it should have already happend. EXPLAINATION BELOW

P.S: If bending 3 dimentions is considered, yea I believe that is possible! The wormhole, teleportation. yup.
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