Preventing Aircraft Hijacks

[gohm]

The movie was cool. Don't know if they ever practise the mid air refueling from a KC tanker or not. Normally they'd refuel on the ground like others. A lot of speculation on what that plane can/can't do.

Oh Frodo, dumping fuel? Now the EPA will be tracking you.. laugh, only kidding. How would the terrorist know the fuel has been dumped, by cockpit display? How about just changing the display readout without dumping? How would you install and run this fuel dumping device?

[frodo.rok]

Yes you people are right it is indeed a risky as well as technicaly difficult idea.
But i think technical difficulties can be removed.
And the task of breaking terrorist spychologicaly(or win their trust) so that they got no way out except leting us to be close to them ca be done by efficient nagotiators and pilots on board.
Still i cannot rule out the risk associated with it.
As I think more about it.I found that many has different and amazing techncal ideas.But no matter how efficient ones technology is it always has holes in it.
LIMITATIONS.....

What I think now is that,
we should have a task force(kind of) organised by countries(fighting terrorism) and let them be on board so that they can control situations.
Commandos for this special task force will be chosen from all the countries and will be an extreme confidential process and they will be chosen on real time basis.Prior to their task they will not be told about it.

Will it work??

[frodo.rok]

How would the terrorist know the fuel has been dumped, by cockpit display? How about just changing the display readout without dumping? How would you install and run this fuel dumping device?--Gohm

Prior to my dumping fuel idea I have hought about what you say 'changing the display readout'....
now one of my freind ask me that if terrorists go to check it manualy(me and my freind both are not aware that wheither their is any provission to check it manualy when the aircraft is flying).
Considaring his point I left that idea and made it real.

How would you install and run this fuel dumping device?--Gohm

Okay, now thats technical....

It will be a valve or something like that which will open a concealed path from the tank.The valve will operate with electromechanical devices and the initiation and termination of the mechanism will controled from ground or by the pilot himself.It will be a remote controled valve.A efficient controle system mechanism as I think can do that.

[xheavenlyx]

Ok, Ive been reading the replies here. Really good ones, and a few need more research.

Before I say anything I want to share something amazing. The ARINC Standard (Aeronautical Radio, Incorporated) has about...I dont know more than 300 protocols for in-flight to ground control communication catering to different things from weather to air-path and status of the flight. So about our ideas... we need to read more.


god i was going to write my thoughts on ideas u guys gave, but after reading a bit on ARINC I just ...got tired, its HUGE! and still there is more:

Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (or ACARS)

One thing to note is that most of what we are talking about can be possible with mainly software and some hardware changes. For example the displays can show what you want it to show through software.

[ash]

Thanks for the link! Awesome stuff.. *drools*

Oh, I don't think we can fool the hijackers with a display change. If they know a plane has that dummy system on board, they'll just ignore the warnings. An actual fuel dump will leave them helpless (whether they choose to verify or not). But there is probably an easier way, some sorta airborne immobilizer.

Going a bit off topic, have you guys played Flightgear? Its a free flight simulator.. awesome stuff. I tried taking off with a A-10 Thunderbolt, I thought I could simply release the brakes and increase trottle. Turns out I have to press a dozen switches before I could even move (you can click the buttons as well as move levers on the cockpit with the mouse). Love the realism

(though, they have a UFO and Santa Claus models, which is just crazy to fly, lol)

[frodo.rok]

Thanks Xheavenlyx.

Indeed we need to read more.

But in my case only reading those stuff does not help....I need help actualy.
I have doubt that i understand all about those protocols.

Ash please elaborate what do you mean by "Airborne Immobiliser".

[xheavenlyx]

Where airborne Immobilizer? Immobilize the terrorists rite? Yea I think thats good too. Like camera and a turret. A project was like this with an airsoft pellet gun on Hack-a-day.

and Ash, no havent played it. I know about it. but thought it was too complicated lol...

[frodo.rok]

Is this the end of the discussion?

If so then what is the outcome??

Or can anybody conclude or put some more thought into it...??