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Default 90' turn in pcb trace? is it harmfull

Why 90 degree turn traces produce cross talk or noise in pcb?
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Default Re: 90' turn in pcb trace? is it harmfull

Umm. . . can you please clarify your question?
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Default Re: 90' turn in pcb trace? is it harmfull

Yes it is harmful depending on what signal it carries. If it a DC signal no harm. If a HF signal, then the abrupt turn of the trace creates an antenna from which the HF signal radiates.
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Default Re: 90' turn in pcb trace? is it harmfull

Thanks..

Do you have any waveforms or simulation results if any to justify answer
or else if snapshots thats enough
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Default Re: 90' turn in pcb trace? is it harmfull

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Umm. . . can you please clarify your question?
Traces are those copper (or other conductors) tracks you find on Printed Circuit Boards. umashankar's question was basically asking why the copper tracks at are 90o (right angled) produces "cross talk" and "noise" in PCBs.

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I believe you can try finding those in IEEE journal papers
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I believe you can try finding those in IEEE journal papers
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Haha, I understand your point. However, the reason I gave the IEEE journals was because he requested for waveforms or simulation results regarding the effect of a 90 degree trace with HF signals. Those journals are not limited to industry professionals and PhD engineers; they are good resources even for students.

I personally dont have the software capable of simulating the effects on traces, but those who could would have posted their results in those journals
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If you havent searched yet, here's one of the journals you can refer to:
"Right angle corners on printed circuit board traces, time and frequency domain analysis"
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However, you will not be able to access the full content without full subscription (not only just a IEEE membership, unfortunately). Good news is, you can find the document for free from the actual source:

http://www.montrosecompliance.com/Te...orners-USA.pdf

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Traces are those copper (or other conductors) tracks you find on Printed Circuit Boards. umashankar's question was basically asking why the copper tracks at are 90o (right angled) produces "cross talk" and "noise" in PCBs.
Thanks! I'm still relatively new to all of this.
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