Are Microsoft Products really screwed up?

The_Big_K

I'm sure, this one is going to touch your emotions.

Lately, I've met many die-hard Microsoft haters who think Microsoft products are all screwed up. This thread is dedicated to all arguments & counter-arguments on Microsoft Products.

Let's have a healthy discussion over here. We'll not confine ourselves to any particular product.

To set the ball rolling, let's take Microsoft's Windows Operating System. Tell everyone why you think its good or bad.

-The Big K-

Neha

Nice thread, Biggie!

Well to comment on Microsoft's operating system, it won't be difficult coz I've neva used any other operating system, but what I've heard z window's op is most user friendly!
Let comments flood in!

desijays

Windows is the scrouge of the planet. I think it should be banned. If it werent for Windows we all would be more computer savvy in a way.

Besides Windows is severly flawed at the core. Networking was added as an after thought. The registry is completely unnecessary if a little thought was given to the initial design. All the configuration details could be stored in simple txt files like linux.

Windows is also bloated in the most serious of ways. By definition an operating system should be the interface between the programmer and the underlying hardware devices. It can include a little application software. But not every blaedy drop in the ocean. It must leave end users with a choice of what they want to have on their system. Even now if you try to uninstall netmeeting, or msn gaming service or WMP, it will give you an error saying it can't. Thats BS.

And most importantly, its not the OS I am against, even though I wouldn't mind rallying against its use. I hate the company. The way they monopolize the market. Quite frankly, that is the reason most of us hate microsoft, not cos of its OS alone.

Now compare linux in all the above aspects. If you know what I'm talking about, you'll conclude linux is beautiful.

Windows is just downright ugly. Its got pimples and potch marks... all the way up and in place you can't see. I wish windows had life so i can beat it till it died.

aashima

Well with the operating system, I hardly have any complaints. I find it pretty satisfactory and well upto my requirements. Microsoft I suppose have incorporated almost all the comfortable features that are needed one to access the OS whether he is perfect or a novice!
But as far as the other products of Microsoft are concerned, I do find them insufficient and screwed up! Windows' softwares like Norton, Media player and many of them are far less popular than other counterparts available.

crook

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Originally Posted by aashima

But as far as the other products of Microsoft are concerned, I do find them insufficient and screwed up! Windows' softwares like Norton, Media player and many of them are far less popular than other counterparts available.

I think there is a little misunderstanding here. Norton is not a product manufactured by Microsoft. Symantec is responsible for Norton. I agree with the fact that Windows Media Player is not a great software.

But the real trouble is with outlook express!

Its vulnerable to worms and trojans. I hope the upgrade of Outlook express, that is Windows Mail will address this.

akravikanth

Has anyone watched the Revolution OS documentary? if not, first watch it.

Then you can know the answers for all the things from top to bottom, a to Z, up to down...

Some highlights of the video are the talkings of Linux kernel developer Linus Torvalds, Software Patents and free software, GNU by the FSF founder Richard Stallman. And one important highlight is the protest by the people who actually bought Microsoft Windows and screwed up and with the "Who Ordered Windows", signs in that protest.

ishandoshi

Hello People,
Well i really think Microsoft Sux...though i use windows xp as my OS.I had this query in my mind too.Well All products of microsoft are actually an idea or innovation from some other companies.For eg,Vista which is the upcoming OS is a total duplicate copy of MAC OS.Apple released its version of iPods.Microsoft came up with Zune.
Basically why people go on for windows is that its user friendly while MAC aint.But we being developers and into the computer domain...according to me i suppose we should respect the fact that Apple's innovation is the best and even though Microsoft is rocking the market today its not gonna continue in the same way as it is now.
Am wondering how wonderful it would be if Google would take out an OS!!
Well anyways final conclusion for me is Microsoft Sucks...

The_Big_K

That's exactly something which I had expected on this thread

!

I've used iMac OSX, WinXP, RedHat and BeOS as a home user. I've had a look at Vista too. I can say for sure that Vista is not a copy of OSX! It just cannot be.

Microsoft, I think, did a fantastic job with its Aria(TM) thing in Vista. Think about it from a home user perspective. XP, Vista do provide a complete solution to a regular home user. Linux (read ubuntu) is a great OS but people aren't ready to switch. Probably we are in love with the 'UI' which we see everywhere - banks, offices, colleges and even in software companies. Google OS - they will surely come up with one soon. I really believe that new new OS shouldn't be aimed to 'Kill Windows'. Rather, it should provide us with something which hasn't yet been thought of.

But we must not forget the Microsoft has came up with really good products too. "Outlook" is an example which I want to quote here. There's only one mail client which comes closer to it - "Evolution": available on KDE.

Before I conclude, I must congratulate MS (

) for the 'Live' search. Live search, in my opinion, is way better than Google's or Yahoo's search. By 'better', I mean the search results relevancy. Any takers on this?

-The Big K-

aashima

Well said Biggie! Thats true that as a matter of race or universal acceptance, we deliberately like the Windows certainly bevauseof its simple and user friendly UI. I expect much from VISTA though haven't had a control on all its features. Anybody tried?

kidakaka

Quote:

Originally Posted by desijays

Windows is the scrouge of the planet. I think it should be banned. If it werent for Windows we all would be more computer savvy in a way.

Besides Windows is severly flawed at the core. Networking was added as an after thought. The registry is completely unnecessary if a little thought was given to the initial design. All the configuration details could be stored in simple txt files like linux.

Windows is also bloated in the most serious of ways. By definition an operating system should be the interface between the programmer and the underlying hardware devices. It can include a little application software. But not every blaedy drop in the ocean. It must leave end users with a choice of what they want to have on their system. Even now if you try to uninstall netmeeting, or msn gaming service or WMP, it will give you an error saying it can't. Thats BS.

And most importantly, its not the OS I am against, even though I wouldn't mind rallying against its use. I hate the company. The way they monopolize the market. Quite frankly, that is the reason most of us hate microsoft, not cos of its OS alone.

Now compare linux in all the above aspects. If you know what I'm talking about, you'll conclude linux is beautiful.

Windows is just downright ugly. Its got pimples and potch marks... all the way up and in place you can't see. I wish windows had life so i can beat it till it died.

I like this. I can identify with desijays ... hear hear. To talk on MS Windows, where do I start and where do I end? There was a time when I would have fought for Windows (I was the cause of a really bad flame war during my engineering days - we used to call it war of the OSes). Back then, the thing that attracted me towards Windows was simple. Games. If I had to play games, I needed Windows.

Then I saw Wine. Case closed.

After 8 years: I have a Dell laptop, and it is windows free. Still all games run smoothly as ever and I havent looked at another BSOD (hardcore Windows users would know the Blue Screen Of Death) yet.