Are Microsoft Products really screwed up?

[desijays]

Originally Posted by xheavenlyx

Like my dad says: "Where there's a lock there's always a way to 'open' it! "

i'll always remember that mate

And a "key" instead "way" would sound better I guess. Would it ?

i really want this whole TCPA thing to flunk and be an utter disaster. I'll be honest about one thing though.

Ever since xheavenly told me about the TCPA and its intention to extend its long ugly arm around the globe, Im reminded of the Terminator series of movies( both 1, 2 and 3 ) where it was a war to uphold the spirit of freedom( FSF ) against the machines made by skynet, that wanted nothing but total control( TCPA ) through annihilation !!

[xheavenlyx]

Yea actually, I was thinking of keeping 'key'. But here the key for these locks is with the corporate world. The 'way' is with the people who are against the c0rp.

[desijays]

Originally Posted by xheavenlyx

Yea actually, I was thinking of keeping 'key'. But here the key for these locks is with the corporate world. The 'way' is with the people who are against the c0rp.

. that was well said mate.

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[no_atkt]

no can help it when u want to live in a world of fantasy and mi-guide others by ur simple lack of knowledge!!

DRM - yes vista has drm ever cared as to why it has even though bill gates is against it ... ther are organisations like RIAA and MPAA in existence thanks to whom a company who has a corporate structure and a legal existence (unlike Linux) has been forced to do so ... and also not to forget the EU

VIsta requires u to buy a new monitor :? vista ultimate (with aero) works perfect on a p4 with 512 mb ram with an intel mobo and any decent monitor

[xheavenlyx]

*Read Whole Article Please*

Can you quote me saying that '..you require a new monitor or hardware to run only Vista?'

As I will quote myself again:

best of all PRESENTLY you cant play HDTV movies unless you have a HDTV monitor or TV, and I dont mean not goo quality. BUT zero video, you absolutely cannot watch premium content without premium hardware! This is where TCG plays a role. Here from the horses mouth: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device...t_protect.mspx

Ill explain it just once more:

'cant play HDTV movies' : means you cannot play High Definition Videos which is also what I mean by premium content.

' premium hardware' is the output where the videos goes. Not where you see Vista desktop. It can be same or different depending on the user set up like external displays etc.

This scheme is known asProtected Video Path - Output Protection Management (PVP-OPM) (Link)

Read about it. Actually yes you can say its good as it protects piracy but this also hinders Open Source developers to actually write hardware drivers for Open source operating systems.

Wiki: The scheme relies on the internals of graphics cards to tell whether the hardware is trustworthy (permitted to play copy-protected content).

And if PVP-OPM relies on the internals then ofcourse the drivers will be locked and kept a secret since if the hacker knows this, he/she can write codecs to decode the DRM protected content.

All this information is from reading! If you close your mind and say things like "...legal existence (unlike Linux)..." then really no one can help you. Please for your own good read about CC (Creative Commons) and GPL (General Public License).

Seriously tell me if you have read the two Inquirer articles?

However one thing I liked was that you are right about Bill Gates not liking DRM: Here is a nice one from Engadget

AND AGAIN: Its not about Microshoft anymore. Its about TCG and DRM and Anti-OSS!

Another FUN article: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/steve-job...die-234448.php

*Read Whole Article Please*

[desijays]

Originally Posted by no_atkt

VIsta requires u to buy a new monitor :?

vista does require you to buy a new monitor if it doesn't support protection for the content that is being streamed across it (HDTV for example). If the desktop also requires the same kind of protection then a new monitor is necessary.

Now why would MS let that happen. The desktop is under their control and so they can implement it with the rules or without it. The media content ( protected movies, songs, etc ) are copyrighted.

And this is true not only for monitors, it is true for every piece of hardware that will use some form of DRM rules.

Originally Posted by no_atkt

vista ultimate (with aero) works perfect on a p4 with 512 mb ram with an intel mobo and any decent monitor

PERFECT?? lol

[no_atkt]

why are blaming MS for implementing drm standards blame the content providers, drm is for media files MS doesnt provide audio or video others do ... blame them .... and yeah its perfect !!

[xheavenlyx]

I am not blaming MS. Its not them, Bill anyway is against DRM. Its the whole bandwagon of corporate world.

Anyway for a little fun have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2...elated&search=

Its amazing Even more effects are download-able. And it can run on 1GB without a hitch! Best of all its free.

(I have it installed too, just needs a little more personalization will end in a few days)

[no_atkt]

youtube has loads of such desktops and also some screenshots on other forums are jaw dropping ppl have spent/wasted so mcuh time doing something like tht its amazing ... if MU didnt have those files i to wouldv done something

PS: its good to see member attitudes changing a bit ... they dont hate MS prodcuts now they aint against MS ...

[xheavenlyx]

Yea, the matrix desktop

Anyway, This one article I came accross is Amazing!!

Again Ill be clear I AM NOT AGAINST MS but its easy to see them fearing the FOSS (free and Open Source Software) community. They are actually thinking of suing most of the bigger companies that distribute Linux because of MS Patent Infringement!

It also explains the complex licensing of FOSS!

Yes, free software is a more sophisticated concept than many people think, and it is subject to a legally enforceable license of its own. That license was written by free-software inventor Richard Stallman, who anticipated 20 years ago all the threats free software faces today. Foremost among those threats, Stallman understood, were patents.

Its a three page article. Have a read guys.