Reservation in educational systems?Do we need it?

[miniy]

Do we require Reservation in educational systems?
If you ask me i will say a big NO..I personally feel that in the name of reservations we are trying to discriminate people...I think this is not the right way for uplifting weaker sections of the society..If this trend continues the true meaning or value of education itself would be lost..
What do you all think about this?

[The_Big_K]

Miniy, it would be nice if you explain the 'reservation' scenario in brief to our International readers.

It would help them understand what's happening in India.

[ash]

Yes, I was wondering about that Waiting to see some responses here.. I think we have a similar situation here in Malaysia, but not to that extent, I suppose.

[The_Big_K]

Yeh, 'reservations' in educational system is an 'issue' that everyone's talking about these days. Looking forward to miniy's post.

[joe3204]

reservation in professional colleges is absolutely nonsense. a person has to have aptitude for becoming an engineer or a doctor. just because a person belongs to a particular community doesn't make him/her eligible to join a professional course.


all that politicians hope to achieve through this is increase in their vote banks, and that is all.

[richa_engr]

ofcousre......... reservation in educational institutes is very bad and the extent it has been increasing is very very discouragin.....
Reservation is conquering with quality......and its prolongation is destroying the value of education.....deserve ons r not gettin chance.....this will definitely hinder the progress........
Main agenda behind reservation is not upliftin.. but only the way to fill vote banks......these POLITICS is destroyin INDIA....

[moksh]

well the reservation is a bigdanger to the quality of work force in India. And whats more i think it's becomeing a mane cause of Discrimination these days.. cast system no longer exists but this reservation things brings the evil back....

well here's a common joke abt reservation

(Rules For Examination)
1. General students - Answer ALL questions.

2. OBC - WRITE ANY one question.

3. SC - ONLY READ questions.
4 ST- THANKS FOR COMING..

AND.

5. Gujjars - THANKS FOR ALLOWING OTHERS TO ATTEND THE EXAMINATION .. !!

[ankur8819]

Reservation...ah!! man it sucks..!!
i recently read in newspaper that there is going to be reservations for the faculty in IITs and IIms..though it is being opposed by the directors of IIT but i am skeptical that if this opposition will be of any help..thanks to the great politicians in our country...x-(

Actually my point is.that reservation was introduced ny Dr. B.R. Ambedkar..to reduce the differences between lower castes and upper catse around 60 years ago and the basic idea was that this reservation thing would be removed when its objctive is fulfilled..and now It has been further increased..To me this clearly suggests instead of moving in a forward direction India has gone more Backward !!!

Rightly said by someone--"India IS the Only pLace where People fight to be called backwards "
Don know what gonna happen to our Country..!!

[Itanium]

Remove Reservations. Educate all.

We could see India as as developed country very soon.

I'm not sure how both are possible in a country like India where..

Reservations are increasing

As well as the cost of educating a child is also increasin!!!

[The_Big_K]

Originally Posted by Itanium

Remove Reservations. Educate all.

We could see India as as developed country very soon.

I'm not sure how both are possible in a country like India where..

Reservations are increasing

As well as the cost of educating a child is also increasin!!!

Educate all - that's why politicians are advocating reservations in education system.

[yudi]

People who were demanding reservation in education now started demanding reservation in Private sector too.
i don't know where the hell we all people are going.

in india at the time of freedom era 15-08-1947, when our constitution was being written by Dr. BR Ambedkar & other people at that time the social condition of some people were very poor & drastic. keeping a hope for that people our constitution were developled & issued on 26-01-1950, having several Reservation & facilities for those people.
Now during these 60 yrs after freedom, condition of those poeple have changed. Now we don't need reservation.

we don't want Reservation, Yes or No?
If you ask this question to reservation catagory candidates , i guess most of them would agree with us & say a big NO.

[koli]

Yudi I think you meant Private sector. Reservation in Public sector exists from ages. It is really an ugly face of politics. Greedy politicians are using reservation to gain more votes and fill their own pockets at the cost of countries future.

Abt Dr Ambedkar - He was a revolutionary and changed the cast systems and added just relief to certain casts which needs assistance so that people from those casts can come to mainstream. But waht is happening after 60 years. BTW - his recommendation was to end reservation after 50 year. But our current politicians are using this as a weapon to hunt votes.

I am personally against entire reservation now as well as what was designed by Ambedkar. I personally met at least 20+ folks from reserved category. Out of which 15+ were fraud either current or the frauds which were going on from generations. One example a cast name "Halba Koshti" has some sort of reservation. On 1950 there were only 150+ families who belongs to this cast. Now the population of this cast is more then 15Lakh(1.5Million). How is it possible within 50 year. There are many other subcasts like xxx koshti, yyy koshti, halba xxxx, halba yyy who got themselves into this category.

[yudi]

i agree with you koli..

[sauravgoswami]

hello freinds!! though your point of view is absolutely correct!!but reservations has pluses too...first of all,it ensures that everyone gets chance to learn & it also tells us the state of underpriviledged,we are debating reservations but when it comes to responsible positions only performance matters

[vijayrock]

I will give an example...
when i finished my higher secondary i.e 12th class..i wrote the engineering entrance test and got 270/300 as cutoff.
In centralized counselling for engineering admission i got Computer science eng in a good college.But my friend who got 250/300 as cutoff got admitted into a better college(that college is one of the best college) with Aeronautical eng as course.
The only reason behind that is i belong to FC and he belongs to MBC or SC(i dont remember).BY merit i have more marks than him.
The government is advocating that for FC u have to have good marks and for BC -get good marks and need not be more than FC
MBC-get average marks and no worries.
SC& ST-get some marks.
I am not insulting anyone.
My argument is how can these people decide the future of the students by the caste and not by merit?
Reservation is the magic wand that the politicians exploit a lot.but they are unaware of the fact..It might backfire them.
If the government people feel that the backward sections of the society need some push,they should
1.provide all the facilities such as education,health et all to them
2.How long will the government say that they are backward.Bring them to the fore.