Reservation in educational systems?Do we need it?

[yudi]

People who were demanding reservation in education now started demanding reservation in Private sector too.
i don't know where the hell we all people are going.

in india at the time of freedom era 15-08-1947, when our constitution was being written by Dr. BR Ambedkar & other people at that time the social condition of some people were very poor & drastic. keeping a hope for that people our constitution were developled & issued on 26-01-1950, having several Reservation & facilities for those people.
Now during these 60 yrs after freedom, condition of those poeple have changed. Now we don't need reservation.

we don't want Reservation, Yes or No?
If you ask this question to reservation catagory candidates , i guess most of them would agree with us & say a big NO.

[koli]

Yudi I think you meant Private sector. Reservation in Public sector exists from ages. It is really an ugly face of politics. Greedy politicians are using reservation to gain more votes and fill their own pockets at the cost of countries future.

Abt Dr Ambedkar - He was a revolutionary and changed the cast systems and added just relief to certain casts which needs assistance so that people from those casts can come to mainstream. But waht is happening after 60 years. BTW - his recommendation was to end reservation after 50 year. But our current politicians are using this as a weapon to hunt votes.

I am personally against entire reservation now as well as what was designed by Ambedkar. I personally met at least 20+ folks from reserved category. Out of which 15+ were fraud either current or the frauds which were going on from generations. One example a cast name "Halba Koshti" has some sort of reservation. On 1950 there were only 150+ families who belongs to this cast. Now the population of this cast is more then 15Lakh(1.5Million). How is it possible within 50 year. There are many other subcasts like xxx koshti, yyy koshti, halba xxxx, halba yyy who got themselves into this category.

[yudi]

i agree with you koli..

[sauravgoswami]

hello freinds!! though your point of view is absolutely correct!!but reservations has pluses too...first of all,it ensures that everyone gets chance to learn & it also tells us the state of underpriviledged,we are debating reservations but when it comes to responsible positions only performance matters

[vijayrock]

I will give an example...
when i finished my higher secondary i.e 12th class..i wrote the engineering entrance test and got 270/300 as cutoff.
In centralized counselling for engineering admission i got Computer science eng in a good college.But my friend who got 250/300 as cutoff got admitted into a better college(that college is one of the best college) with Aeronautical eng as course.
The only reason behind that is i belong to FC and he belongs to MBC or SC(i dont remember).BY merit i have more marks than him.
The government is advocating that for FC u have to have good marks and for BC -get good marks and need not be more than FC
MBC-get average marks and no worries.
SC& ST-get some marks.
I am not insulting anyone.
My argument is how can these people decide the future of the students by the caste and not by merit?
Reservation is the magic wand that the politicians exploit a lot.but they are unaware of the fact..It might backfire them.
If the government people feel that the backward sections of the society need some push,they should
1.provide all the facilities such as education,health et all to them
2.How long will the government say that they are backward.Bring them to the fore.

[aashima]

Quota, perhaps is the most heated topic of the recent times, especially after the recent bill passed by the Govt. for the OBCs. Well I too am, just like all, against it. When it comes to education, brain and talent should be the all to constitute the deciding parameters. But then they say its important to implement certain rules of instability to maintain the stability. To which I'd rather say that if we cannot completely eradicate this law from the constitution, we should atleast not promote it to a level which it does not deserve.
For one, if it HAS to be there, the percentage of reserved should be at minimum and not maximum acceptable level. Secondly, to which I'd strongly stick to is there should still be NO reservation in PG institutes. The efforts of AIIMS faculty and students is worthy of the appreciation for their efforts to prevent the recent quota bill to be implemented. Once a student is through with the graduation on the basis of reservation, it makes no sense providing him/her this facility during entrance for post graduate programs. While in graduation, he might have become capable enough to get admitted to an elite institution on his own and without any quota bill.

[godfather]

This Reservation totally sux india now a days..


let me tell you one real story to explain it..


There was a boy name is Ramesh and there was a one more boy his name is Mahesh. The Mahesh is from the Reservation quota and he is quite dull in his study.... Their Class teacher Paresh sir was very intelligent and he thought that Ramesh Will become a good Engineer.... (Crazy One) but the Result come for the 12th standard and Ramesh got 60% and Mahesh 50% and after some day there was the admission after 12th and as per Reservation quota There are Many Seats reserved for Them. Mahesh Got admission in B.tech and Ramesh is not able to get admission so this is the Scenario here in india that the Capable person sometimes lost there chance to show their ability... and the Fact is that Mahesh is not capable to Complete is Engineering he leaves it after one year...

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I m not totally oppose on this but we can help that people by giviing them money to improve their education and we also train them but to kept seat reserve for them is not good idea..

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you going to say that then why this all system is still here let me Explain it also

In the Arena of Mahatma Gandhi and Dr.Ambedkar they suffered by this Partiality between people in old days and that why to grow up their life and Quality the implicit this Reservation Quota and there was deal that after some years people can understood this partiality and they will accept it after that we can Remove this Reservation....

Then You must say that Why the F**** this is Still here...!!!????

answer is The Politics and The Political leader the know that this Is the main Votebank for us so they going to Promote it more and more and thus the Situation is now not in our hand....


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PS: i just come to know that in some state of India I think its UP there is reservation quota in private company also... what the hell is this... why any private company pay for this why they select some Low Quality Employee.!!!???

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Ok leave this we can do nothing in this area... just debate nothing else

[miniy]

From this i can say that most of you guys prefer not to have any reservation in educational systems..Education should be purely based on merit..We must get into educational institutions only through performance and not through reservations..

Moreover not all political leaders are behind the motto "EDUCATE ALL".
This reservation system, only brings discrimination between students and this is not a sign for a healthy competitive environment.Hence,give more preference and look out only for bright young talents who could think on their own,innovate,perform thereby bringing laurels to our country..

Education is not blindly stuffing in,rather it is bringing out what is already in..

[kedarjk]

I think giving reservation on casts is not at all a good idea. But reservations should be given to those who are economically backward.

[yudi]

yes but even financially strong people are now using BC & SC quota certificates which are fake for getting into merit.
with due regards to all the humans i want to say that there should be a seperate system that examine the status/conditions of candidates seeking addmission through a reserved quota because here people dont understand their moral duties for being honest about everything not all nut many.