Debate: Are Degrees necessary for being successful?

[aashima]

Originally Posted by integratdbrains

i agree with rick but boy u can't make the statement "degrees are obstacle to success!! " and aashmina ur thoughts on illiterate poeple were a bit.. our very know farmer in most of the cases is illiterate but remember his worth!i think degrees have nothin to with the ultimate goal to be achieved in life... but it can be a buffer for making things a bit easy.rick has given egs of great people been drop outs from big universities..People with the right attitude go places,having a degree or not is immaterial.

well farmers are the asset of india...the biggest asset... therz no denying... but wat do they get after working soooo hard????? i suppose farming is an aweful job... i takes the hell outta you to grow up the grains... but wat after that??? how many farmers are living a life of comforts??? hardly 5% and that too just an avg life... a lil above than the poor ones!!!
and no doubt ppl with rite attitude can rock the world but how many around have that attitude??? considering the majority.... i suppose degree is indispensable....

[crazyboy]

Hey All,

I strongly beleive that degrees are must. To prove this u will not give any comment ....or proof will just say ..you will feel this by experience..
you will see that if you will compare a PG and UG no doubt PG will get promotion sooner...means he will get benefit of degree.....
don't wanna say any more on this..

--Crazy

[aashima]

Originally Posted by crazyboy

Hey All,

I strongly beleive that degrees are must. To prove this u will not give any comment ....or proof will just say ..you will feel this by experience..
you will see that if you will compare a PG and UG no doubt PG will get promotion sooner...means he will get benefit of degree.....
don't wanna say any more on this..

--Crazy

truely true!!! )

[integratdbrains]

and u will not deny the fact that 98% of the youth are dreaming and aiming to get a job in companies started by these drop outs and thats because they felt only a promotion can be the sole motivator for them.. i mean struggling and keep on struggling for promotions with the degrees thats it.. !this ain't life boss.. for me atleast!

[The_Big_K]

I read this in one of Rich Dad's books : "A grade students work for B grade students".

True or False? What do you say?

& what are our learnings from this debate?

-The Big K-

[crazyboy]

Originally Posted by The_Big_K

I read this in one of Rich Dad's books : "A grade students work for B grade students".

True or False? What do you say?

& what are our learnings from this debate?

-The Big K-

Sorry to use some an adage in hindi...(in Chanakya's book...Modern Chanakya...I guess)
"Na padhte to 100 tarah se kama kar khate..."

That doesn't mean that we wont go for the hogher studies...

[The_Big_K]

Let me translate it into English for those who do not understand 'Hindi' -

"Na padhte to 100 tarah se kama kar khate..."

It translates to -

"If we were not educated (in school & colleges), we'd have found 100 ways to earn money"

Now, in my opinion, above is not linked with whether you should go for higher education or not. Higher education does help. Take it this way - You go to school / colleges to learn. But what you learn is of no use unless you use it somewhere.

The purpose of education is to evolve our minds & to make you 'think'. The current system ( I guess this is true all over the world ) does not really make you think. Its more of 'memory test'. You memorize 10 different forumlae, chemical equations, theorems & reproduce them in the answer paper.

Have we really understood how Pythagoras theorem helps us understand complex problems? Have we ever realized how pullys reduce our effort? Did we ever think why your mom put so much oil in your favorite pickle? Its all about how you use your classroom learnings in real life.

In the end, higher education may make your entry into the job market easy. But your success will depend on how you apply your learnings in your work. Makes sense, what say?

-The Big K-

[pradypop]

There are some common traits among sucessful people and I have met a few people who can be considered as sucessful.

1. They are big dreamers. More importantly the believe in their dreams.
2. They are friendly and nice people.
3. They all have strong value system.
4. Money is by-product of good work. These people focus more on their work and if money happens-great.
5. They believe in action. Everyone has plans. The difference lies weather you have convection to go ahead and implement them.
6. They have as many fears as others. Courage is doing things inspite of fear. Not having fear is not courage. Except a movie hero, rest have their fears.
7. Successful people generally have mastery over their anger.
8. Most importantly they have clear cut goals. Rarely, these people lose focus of what they want.
9. They have supreme self-belief.
10. They never look at past, good or bad. They have a vision for present and future.
11. They are rarely self-centric. They have a vision for their sub-ordinates aswell.
12. They dont believe in impossibles and openly flaunt established norms.

Degree never is a criterion. It helps but its not a must. Else, we wouldn't have a college drop-out as world's richest man.

[rick]

Originally Posted by pradypop

3. They all have strong value system.

Degree never is a criterion. It helps but its not a must. Else, we wouldn't have a college drop-out as world's richest man.

well said.

and almost all of them have their own business. ever heard of any employee who is highly successful?

RICK

[aashima]

Originally Posted by rick

ever heard of any employee who is highly successful?

RICK

well yea... try to get known to the CEO of microsoft... the nokia company... they are no less successful ppl and they were once employees there