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Old 5th February 2008, 10:57 PM
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Default Do You Think That Bio-diesel Would Be The Fuel For Future

Hi All.......

Hi Guyz..Its me again with a discussion regarding the Future Fuel. Lets share your opinions/ideas/doubts in this section. Go for the Poll To Vote for your Fuel of Interest. And the Poll options are left to you only.


Here are my Current Options...
1) Petrol
2) Diesel
3) Bio-Diesel (Jathropa Curcus)
4) Hydrogen
5) H2O2
6) Water
7) Steam
8) Coal
9) Electricity
10) Fuel Cells

O.K.????????
Ask any thing about the above options for doubts.
Do reply me with any other option if You know....


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gr8 Guyz.........
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Probably, you need to format your posts properly. Try using a smaller font.

Coming back to the topic. My vote, for a future fuel, goes to
  1. Air
  2. Solar power
  3. Combination of above two with H2O
I'm not very sure (as of now) why I chose those options, but my intuition tells me that in future, we'll have to rely on them.
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Default Re: Do You Think That Bio-diesel Would Be The Fuel For Future

Compressed Air

Energy of the compressed air
Using Boyle law we get that
E = 10(xLx-x+1) where
E = Energy in Kilogrameters in a tank of one liter volume.
One kilogrameter is a force of one kilo in one meter, is the same energy of 9.81 Joules.
367000 Kilogrameters is a KWH
KWH = Kilowatt hour
Kgm = Kilogrameter
The absolute pressure in the tank is x Kg/cm the absolute pressure is the relative pressure plus one.

Example: The pressure in the gauge of the tank is 10 kg /cm absolute pressure of the tank is 10+1=11 kg/cm
E = 10(11L11-11+1) = 163.758 Kgm
L11 = 2.3978

Volume of the tanks 300 liters
Maximum pressure 352 Kg / cm
Volume of the air at atmosphere pressure 352 x 300 = 105600 liters
Energy for each liter at 352 Kg / cm = 17188 Kgm
Energy in the tanks 17188 x 300 = 5156400 Kgm
Energy in the tanks in KWH 5156400 / 367000 = 14.05 KWH
Efficiency of the compressor 60 %
Electricity for charge the tanks 5156400 / 60 x 100 = 8594000 Kgm
Electricity for charge the tanks in KWH 8594000 / 367000 = 23.4 KWH
Efficiency of the motor 60 %
Speed of the car 80 Km / h
Force for move the car 25 Kgf
Range 3093840 / 25000 = 123 Km
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Nice Data ......................

Just dumped Directly from the site...

About us

Dude........I don't mean that you are not capable of searching on Google for Air Cars. What all i need is Make every one think for a better results. Why i initiated the Air-Run engines concept is, It has got a few Drawbacks

Like Lubrication, which is difficult to withstand on the Walls of the Cylinder at the extreme pressures of the compressed air.

The MDI - Air car since introduced a secondary piston with another Con Rod.... Automatically made the number of moving parts increased and this is what directly increases the Fictional Losses.

I want you people to think about things like this and go as depth as you can in the subject and iron out Problems like these ..

Take this Light....

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Nice admin Bhai...

Your third option makes me think a bit innovative.Even you are here..Thank God. Let me wait for some more time till i get few more options.

coming to that format...
I tried to edit it later But its of no use. Next time it won't look so..
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yes bio diesel will be the future fuel.....
as u all hv healthy discussion abt air engines. u see air run engine cost us more ,we hv to waste energy in compressing it to increase thermodynamic efficiency .... it is good concept but bio diesel will work and it is cost effective
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Fuel cells wd be a better option than bio diesel if we think of a fuel rich future. If we start using Bio-diesel then we wd have to bring a larger part of fertile area under cultivation of the fuel plant which wd adversly affect the production other food crops and that wd mean putting fuel in ur car and not in stomach!!!!!!!!
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I would say the first step will be traditional bio-diesel, shortly followed by the more optimal bio-diesel from algae farms. The second step will be electrical/solar. Lastly will be nuclear/particulate power generation which after standard fushion/fission, will result in the ability of bending time for space exploration. Also sub atomic particle reactions will power small devices.

personally though I would love steam! =) There was a futuristic western movie (can't remember the name) where the idea was high technology with low technology industrial, i.e. highly mechanized steam powered robots etc. Amazing concept.
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personally though I would love steam! =) There was a futuristic western movie (can't remember the name) where the idea was high technology with low technology industrial, i.e. highly mechanized steam powered robots etc. Amazing concept.
Speaking of steam powered robots..
YouTube - Komedi - A Gentleman's Duel

I tend towards focusing on photovoltaic technology more than others. I believe that should be the main "fuel" source!
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Ash-

thanks for the link, that was a cool bit of anime.

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YouTube - Komedi - A Gentleman's Duel

I tend towards focusing on photovoltaic technology more than others. I believe that should be the main "fuel" source!
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thanks for the link, that was a cool bit of anime.
No problemo, gohm. Though, I must mention that you have to be a little careful to distinguish "anime" and CGI, haha. Of course, unless you mean animation in general.
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Laugh, you are right! Guess that's why I am not in I.T.
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I would vote for Hydrogen, water, electricity and fuel cell.
Bio diesel may be efficient but it still causes pollution. And why coal petrol and other fossil fuels on the list.
Steam may be an option but i am not sure.
Nice clip ash.....what is CGI though....and what is the difference between CGI and Anime.....the clip looked like a normal animated cartoon to me.
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CGI is computer generated whereas anime is normally tradidional animation using drawings etc.

I did also find a cool anime about steam called "steamboy" done by the guy who did Akira. The western movie I was refering too was called "Wild wild west" with Will Smith.
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