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Old 2nd March 2006, 08:40 PM
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Talking Preventing Aircraft Hijacks

Okay,

Let me see if its really that easy . I thought of a simple way of preventing Aircraft Hijack!

1. Cockpit should be isolated from rest of the aero plane. I mean, seal the cockpit so that no person can enter the cockpit. I don't know if cockpit is isolated (never travelled business class :P )

2. In the passenger cabin, make following arrangement:-
Device a machine which fills the passenger cabin with mild anesthetic gas within 30 seconds (or maybe less). This machine should be remote controlled (from cockpit or from the control room on land).

So, in case of emergency, just fill the passenger cabin with anesthetic gas and make everyone sleep . I need not say further. You are smart.

What say? Is it really that easy? Or I missed out on something? Rush in your comments!

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Hey I liked that idea.

I'm not sure if the gas you're thinking about really exists. Chemical engineers, comments please ?

Probably the device you are talking about costs big bucks. It might be uneconomical to fit every aircraft with such device. Can someone estimate cost of building such a device?
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Old 19th March 2006, 11:14 AM
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Comments ! Anyone ??

rename the thread as " The rediculous joke".....if you have these ideas.....
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Old 20th March 2006, 08:20 PM
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Ridiculous joke?

I don't see anything ridiculous. Btw, how about proving this idea ridiculous?

Every 'Great' idea was called ridiculous at first. Uuhoo! I'm feeling great now

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the idea sounds cool.....and i don think much cost is gonna involve in this...but anyways...won the hijackers find a way to overcome this???c'mon ppl....we've got a great idea...lets try to make it fool proof....wat about using N2O>??????
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nice idea indeed. yes, is should be cost effective & I think easy to implement too.

well, its a game afterall. if good people develop safety measures, the bad people will work on breaking it. no one can avoid that. good people developed computers and bad people developed viruses.

but even if the hijackers invent a method to overcome this, we- the crazy engineers will find another solution

I can't think of any way of a way to fail this system. What do you say?

I'm not much aware of the gases. N20 doesn't cause side effects? anyone?

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I am clueless about N20. Probably we will have to wait untill some chemical engineer drops in to comment

The idea sounds great. But its too simple not to have been thought off earlier. I tried to see if there could be any digs in the system under consideration but couldn't find anything so far .

Good work guys!
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I am clueless about N20. Probably we will have to wait untill some chemical engineer drops in to comment

The idea sounds great. But its too simple not to have been thought off earlier. I tried to see if there could be any digs in the system under consideration but couldn't find anything so far .

Good work guys!
Dear dear.....its a good try but why you guys are thinking in one way only...
see.....Its quite possible to make an isolated Cockpit. there are not much isuues in that....but still the idea..of gas and let every one sleep is wild...
Plane Hijeckers are not childs....they must have think about this ....a long before...generally they must used the air masks...
and about cockpit issue too...........you know dear .....cracker is always bigger than maker...so they must have think something about it...what that i dont know...i am not a ....
Am i wrong ......buddy...
Pour comments....
No offence means..........


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I'm not much aware of the gases. N20 doesn't cause side effects? anyone?

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In between..........jerry can you give some idea about N20

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Cool Chemical Engineers join in !

Lately, lot of chemical engineers have joined. It would be nice if anyone could contribute to this thread.

What chemicals/gases could be used to achieve this? Is it practical & economical?

More ideas ?

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Smile yea...

even i am too interested to know this
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Lately, lot of chemical engineers have joined. It would be nice if anyone could contribute to this thread.

What chemicals/gases could be used to achieve this? Is it practical & economical?

More ideas ?

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I'm doubleposting, but can't help it. Many Chemical Engineers have joined CE. Please enlighten us if the Hijack-Fix we are thinking is practical?

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Default Re: Preventing Aircraft Hijacks

In simple terms,

Suggestion #1: After 9/11 all commercial aircraft flight deck doors were fitted with dead lock system that is very hard to break, access only via keypad entry and camera verification.

Suggestion #2: Not viable. Aircraft airconditioning systems recycle and replace the air inside the cabin every 2 minutes (average for a medium sized airliner) and besides, any introduction of seditive gas would affect the crew as well....

The best sollution lies in the Airport security which has improved but still is fragile.

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Suggestion #2: Not viable. Aircraft airconditioning systems recycle and replace the air inside the cabin every 2 minutes (average for a medium sized airliner) and besides, any introduction of seditive gas would affect the crew as well....

The best sollution lies in the Airport security which has improved but still is fragile.

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Welcome to the board, JT and thanks for clarifying the things

I'll carry my point further. Even if the air inside aircraft is replaced every two minutes, let the mild anesthetic gas do its action. The idea is to make everyone (including the cabin crew & the hijackers) sleep.

Implementing better security systems at the airport is of course the best option. We need a solution when the things go out of control and the aircraft gets hijacked.

Tell us what do you think.

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