CE - Project Related Ideas & Discussions

[desijays]

Honestly, I don't find a reason why this thread has been dormant for over a month now. I mean ideas were coming up fast and and a sudden stop!!!. But I suppose its merely a case of a less number of participants. I don't think that should be a problem.

I actually like the idea of a messenger. its really cool.

I think we should follow upon this without giving up. It would be a shame to stop that which has been started.

come on guys, pitch in with your ideas. it doesn't have to be messenger. if there is anything else you could come up with, well and fine. Ofcourse, as long as the complexity involed doesn't exponentiate beyond what can be done with the least amount of hassle.

[The_Big_K]

Hey desijays!

Of course we are not giving it up! We need more active members to actually start a project and work on it. This is important because we don't want to stop the project even if members leave in between (highly possible).

Instant Messenger is widely used application and I think it'll be fun to use our own messenger to communicate with CEans. Let us first gain confidence by actually coming up with an executable. We need to finalize the idea first. I assume everyone is excited about CE-Messenger concept.

Let us hope that more CEans join the CE Messenger team

-The Big K-

[Neha]

Chatting with your own messenger...Sounds great!!

Count me in..

[aashima]

Well Instant massenger would be a nice project to get started with. Though I have so far studied only C language but even if we decide to make it in some other language, I would love to be there for any possible help.
Lets get the basic structure as soon as possible. What say?

[desijays]

i got my tests around the corner. will be busy for 2 weeks. after that i'm all game. ive already thought about the basic structure the program will take.

i have always thought that the best way to stand out in a crowd is to not do the most obvious thing. Or in other words try to be that yellow rose in a garden of red roses.

so along the same lines i was just thinking, that instead of going for an extravagent GUI and such why don't we start with a CLI application. a couple of reasons...

1 ) sounds technical and geeky. especially if an onlooker looks at us, he would think we're some kind of hacker or something. but this is the least of the necessities. read on..

2 ) will be plain, bare, slick and minimum with all the expected functionalities. not a bloat like yahoo or msn messenger.

3 ) no hassles with deciding or using a graphics library. if at all the need arises eventually we can make it as a seperate binary that interfaces with the cli, simulating the commands we type.

4 ) can be made a portable application without warranting registry entries in windows and will be a self contained binary in linux. (ex: portable vlc, opera portable one-use )

5 ) we can add all the features we want. dcc, voip, friends list.. and so on and so forth. we can also add exclusive functionality that wont be found anywhere else. interesting ideas from all of you would help in this dept. inline scripting would be one, for advanced users of this messenger. the ability to customize their version of the messenger the way they want it to, without delving into the source. if the messenger is intented to be closed source, then this is the way to go. yahoo, msn and stuff don't provide such functionality. thats why anyday anytime, there will always be more users in IRC compared to yahoo or msn. thats just an example. we can come up with other interesting things.

6) and finally if we find that the cli is a little too primitive we can always switch to a gui. not a problem. but in all honesty, i have found cli applications to provide far more freedom than gui apps.

in due course, to supplement all of the above, we would have by default created a proprietary application level protocol. Imagine having our own RFC documenting this protocol. That would be cool.

[The_Big_K]

Now that's something!

CLI sounds promising; but I'm concerned about its ease of use. To begin with, we don't want kick-butt GUI; we can do something similar to Gtalk (well, we definitely don't want to be copy cats).

'Innovation' is step#2! First of all we want to make sure & be confident that we can actually do such a project online. Possibilities are infinite, you see. Innovation will come with 1000s of Crazy Brains join hands.

Comments Please!

-The Big K-

[desijays]

Originally Posted by The_Big_K

Innovation will come with 1000s of Crazy Brains join hands.
-The Big K-

we need one crazy brain to ignite the spark...

Like i said lets start plain, easy and simple. CLI is just an option. The moment we realize people are finding it difficult, we can always switch to a GUI.

Besides, there is nothing crazy about using a messenger that has a kiss-ass GUI when the rest of the world is doing the same. We are CE'ans after all !!!!!

[The_Big_K]

Originally Posted by desijays

we need one crazy brain to ignite the spark...

Like i said lets start plain, easy and simple. CLI is just an option. The moment we realize people are finding it difficult, we can always switch to a GUI.

Besides, there is nothing crazy about using a messenger that has a kiss-ass GUI when the rest of the world is doing the same. We are CE'ans after all !!!!!

I'll keep my mouth shut and wait for other CEans to comment.

-The Big K-
p.s: Ssshh! We have an independent section in the new CE Forum Structure. Few more days to go!

[xheavenlyx]

Whata CLI? And well, if GUI is easy then we can take it a notch up to something more interactive like a VPN application for CEns. We can create a VPN by hamachi sofware...its been used to play games under LAN thru the internet. What do you say?

[desijays]

CLI - Command Line Interface
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Its one of the means used to make your windows box or linux box do your bidding. Instead of clicking all over the place, you type commands at a prompt and the box executes those commands for you..

A prompt might look like this...

$ - if using bash in linux
c:\> - if using dos prompt

At the prompt you type commands and the box executes that command using any parameters that you might given it..

example:

c:\> dir -----------> will give a list of all files at root.

There are many such commands in dos. Even more if you're using a linux box.



As far as integrating hamachi functionality, I don't see much difference between it and say a conference connection in the context of a messenger. I stress again "context of messenger". Cos I know there is a big difference.

None the less........,

VPN functionality for a messenger would be over kill. But then I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be done. Especially if it eventually molds itself into something un-messengerly . After all, crazy is the name of the game .

But before that xheaven mate, lets first get of the runway. Then we can fly anywhere we want.!!!