CEdoot - Reincarnation of CE-im

[ash]

Oh, only Biggie can give those @crayzengineers.com addresses. I was thinking we should create a new role on CE called "Project leaders", so they can have those addresses to access the CE Lab site (or create more GS sites). Lets see what Biggie thinks when the website revamp is complete

Btw guys, please don't forget to read Desijay's previous post. Lots of valuable information!
CE - Project Related Ideas & Discussions

[mayurpathak]

Varun, excellent work. Although I'm a null when it comes to software programming, I'm involved in making business cases. So I have a tiny winy bit idea about what you guys discuss here. Just one question, any reason for selecting python? Wiki suggested that google, Youtube et all use it. Is it easier? The reason I'm asking is because we might have general CEans wanting to work on this project later on. So we should not come to a situation where people are turned down because they don't know python.

Anyway, Ash regarding your query about email ids. There is no harm in giving email ids to every one. The only issue is currently they are limited in number. We are exploring possibility of coming up with '.org' mail ids. We will surely give it away then on. As of now, all those necessarily require the email ids will be given.

[ash]

Yep, its only the limited number that I'm worried about, since we have thousands of members! Such scarcity, haha. Looking forward for the .org address. Lots of CEans would appreciated it for sure!

Python is only an option. However, it is a much easier language to learn than C, C++ and Java. It'll allow non-Computer members to contribute as well after a little practice. Its also highly portable, meaning Python can be used in many places. That flexibility is quite useful. Of course, those hardcore programmers can still stick to C and the like. Python coexists with them.

... so folks, don't be scared of it. Doesn't bite!

[xheavenlyx]

@Mayur: Thanks for your feedback! Well, Python is not selected for any one project in particular. The installation I gave on cecode (Google Code space) is an example of how we can/might publish our finished work (the installation process and method and logo *wink*), just the demo program was written in Python. CE-IM can be any lang preferred by its head developer (Java/C/C++/etc...).

And dont worry if you aint familier with programing, we need common sense contribution by common users of the program too! The end users are the ones who will use CE-IM.

@Prady: Thanks dude, its like an archiver for this project documenting everything technical and stuff. As for accounts with open source project hosting like sourcefourge and google code, i'd recommend it but in the end its the choice of the project head (I aint programing this!... CE-IM is a big project.)

@Ash: You are our boss in managing the accounts , You can request him for user email ID's and make it easier, for those who are contributing and want to "edit" and "add" pro actively. (We gotta look for some way...)


So who is and when are we starting the CE-IM?

[The_Big_K]

Email IDs won't be a problem for those who are seriously willing to work on the project. Ash, could you please give me the list of CEans who need a CE Mail ID?

[PS: We'll soon release crazyengineers.org email ids for everyone.]

[mayurpathak]

Originally Posted by xheavenlyx

@Mayur: T
And dont worry if you aint familiar with programing, we need common sense contribution by common users of the program too! The end users are the ones who will use CE-IM.

He he... Don't worry about common sense. I have been dealing with Biggie for too long now. I have common sense in abundance. Thats the only thing you need with him.

Well regarding the CE-IM project, somebody has to hone the project manager responsibility. And xHx, there is no stepping out for you by the way. Of course prady is there too. Can we decide between you, prady and ash? (Sorry for keeping out Mayank and pradeepagrawal because CE is not accessible in their offices)

[The_Big_K]

PradeepAgrawal can access through CE. Mayank should get CE access soon. Now, we need volunteers to take care of this project. Volunteers, anyone?

I guess let's get started with the coading part - other things will evolve. This is of course not a project that's going to be executed the way its done in 'professional organizations'.

Oh, are we forgetting Kidakaka? Kidakaka - where are you?

[mayurpathak]

Originally Posted by The_Big_K

PradeepAgrawal can access through CE. Mayank should get CE access soon. Now, we need volunteers to take care of this project. Volunteers, anyone?

Lets post an announcement on the front page.

[The_Big_K]

Yes, that's not a problem. However, we need to have some development first. The core members who're thinking of developing CE should come up with something - so that others can join in to develop it further.

That's what I believe. All we have for now is just a discussion thread. Mayur - we can even announce this through our newsletter to ensure maximum reach. However, we need to have 'something' in place!

[Otherwise, I fear, the 'too many cooks' thing will happen]

[ash]

In line with the "too many cooks", can't really list anyone yet until they are keen to volunteer! We'd have to also see their activity in the project threads to know if they are dedicated and willing to edit stuff at CE Labs. Some would prefer to just contribute content to the forums without wanting to edit stuff.

I don't mind anyone who discussed the CE:IM during the CE Meet be the project head for CE: IM. Xhx is already head of CE Bot. I can provide support for them both

To kick start the project, we need objectives and targets. Doesnt need to be too detailed.. but just a framework to build upon as it project goes along.

By the way, why would CE be banned in offices? Is it really affecting productivity?

[Prady]

Originally Posted by mayurpathak

Just one question, any reason for selecting python? Wiki suggested that google, Youtube et all use it. Is it easier?

It started as a scripting language and as of today is used for lot of web development; thanks to the frameworks developed by open source community. It has got a Java interface by name Jython.

Originally Posted by The_Big_K

However, we need to have some development first. The core members who're thinking of developing CE should come up with something - so that others can join in to develop it further.

True, we need to have the basic material ready and checked-in to some online code repository. May be google-project or source-forge services can be used.

[xheavenlyx]

Ok, simply put here are my thoughts:

1. I cannot (extensively) contribute to CE-IM as one I am not a veteran programmer regarding online services and secondly ... its just too much for something we (I?) might rarely use. No offense its just a personal thought I use yahoo and its pretty darn good.

2. Another thing came up recently and has been taking my time is...get READY... Firefox 3 localization. As you have seen we have Gujarati and Punjabi translations on the download page but no Hindi and no Maratthi and no Bangali (surprising aint it) and not even Malay!! Ash . yes there is a Add-on but for FF2. Now, THATS a project I am willing to sweat for. (your thoughts)


3. @Prady: I have already created the test site on Google Code which is the same as a Sourceforge page. cecode - Google Code
check it out and give feedback on its main thread I had created or here: http://www.crazyengineers.com/forum/...e-created.html

[mayurpathak]

Alright. Honest thoughts from me too-

1. I'm not a programmer, so I can't be of much help in development.
2. I can help in conceiving the functionalities and documentation.
3. If the project is to kick off, its popularity and arranging for sponsorships, advertisements and funds (if needed) can be taken up by me.

That means I'm not the right guy to lead this initiative. Do we have volunteers?