CE Project: CE Bot

[KINETIC_JOULES]

Thanks! I'll read that too. Is there any certain part that you would definitely like me to contribute to?

[ash]

Originally Posted by KINETIC_JOULES

Thanks! I'll read that too. Is there any certain part that you would definitely like me to contribute to?

We are deprived of chasis designs. Can you work on that aspect?

At the moment, the robot will have 6 wheels (3 on both sides). The main bulk of components will be in the middle. We don't want the robot to be too large.. the exact size calculations will depend on the ackerman steering equation (which we havent done yet, but soon will). Maybe you can add a small (but tall) antenna, a camera, and a gripper thingy. Some sort of concept designs I guess

I've done a bare lego design here:
CE Project: CE Bot

You don't need to use a CAD program. Any graphics program is ok. Even sketching on paper and scanning it is alright If you have used Google SketchUp, that would be useful though.

[KINETIC_JOULES]

Well. . . I would scan it, but my windows is being weird atm, and won't recognize my scanner device. I'll work on it. Can I use what you've already got designed?
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What I meant was, can I sketch on what you have?

[raj87verma88]

Thats a good design buddy. Let me see. On Linux, ProE, Catia, Solidworks don,t work. Tried installing BRLCAD but could not. Now I will try MLCAD.
By the way we can use these designs for the project report(google lunar).

[KINETIC_JOULES]

^_^ It is a great design. . . I just wish I had a decent program to design on.

[ash]

@ Kinetic
Yes, you can use it as a base. It looks a little too "ugly" and bare to be called a concept design at the moment. Hopefully you can beautify it If your scanner can't be fixed, just take a digital shot of it. Anything works as long as we can see it clearly

@ Patty
Don't be too concerned with those advanced CAD programs yet. We'll go into that later when we finalize the design. Its too time consuming to make multiple designs on CAD at this stage MLCAD or Google SketchUp should suffice. What problems did you get with BRLCAD?

For the Google Lunar bot, it'll need some modification. Remember, CE Bot is was derived from the GLXP idea, but for earth-based applications. The ideas are similar (ie rough terrain, data communications, remote/autonomous functions, etc), but for lunar applications we'd need to consider the space environment. Things like very long range communications, ultra-efficient power supplies and electronics, special chasis design, extreme environment protection.. as well as how to land the darn thing in the first place. We may need to discuss these aspects for a while before putting in report

[KINETIC_JOULES]

I can't take photos of it either. . . screwy hp printer. . . my camera has a card, and the only way to read the card is through my printer/scanner.
I thought we weren't going to make a lunar bot. . . or is it THAT modular?

[xheavenlyx]

but for lunar applications we'd need to consider the space environment. Things like very long range communications, ultra-efficient power supplies and electronics, special chasis design, extreme environment protection.. as well as how to land the darn thing in the first place. We may need to discuss these aspects for a while before putting in report

wow, elequently(avoid my sp.) put!

As for a lunar bot. Man, I wish it was that easy to make it a Modular system to include all the above aspects Ash pointed out. But no, we cant, working in high radiation/vacuum environment is difficult and costly. Actually really very very costly.

But atleast we can concentrate on something, it can be a good learning process.

Plus, we still have to seriously define a solid use of our Bot. At the least(and most importantly) it can be a bot which learns about the environment and relays the data back to the mother PC and deduces a map and path, and we continue from there on to define more purposes

[KINETIC_JOULES]

Originally Posted by xheavenlyx

Plus, we still have to seriously define a solid use of our Bot. At the least(and most importantly) it can be a bot which learns about the environment and relays the data back to the mother PC and deduces a map and path, and we continue from there on to define more purposes

Didn't you say it was going to be like a rover? Six wheels, 3 on each side? I've got the digital sketch that ash made, but what are we agreeing that the rest of it has. Like HOW modular is this thing going to be? What attachments is this thing going to have?

[ash]

Originally Posted by KINETIC_JOULES

Didn't you say it was going to be like a rover? Six wheels, 3 on each side? I've got the digital sketch that ash made, but what are we agreeing that the rest of it has. Like HOW modular is this thing going to be? What attachments is this thing going to have?

Yes, the rover will be doing the data collecting Its going to have sensors on board, and sends it wirelessly to the main computer some distance away. The modules are simply parts that can be replaced and are compatible with other parts. You can say that the base with the 6 wheels is also a "module".. we can replace it with a stationary stand, or even a float to traverse across water.

The CE Bot rover is just a cut down version of a lunar robot. When Big K first announced the Google Lunar X Prize, we all got pretty excited, and thought that we can design our own lunar robot. However, it will be a more realistic project if we made a normal rover that has real life applications, such as search and rescue, as well as recon. Its very fortunate that Xheavenlyx has an old laptop that we can use as the brain.

If CE Bot is successful, it will be a great contribution to the society We aim to make the process of creating the Bot as open as possible, so others can duplicate it for their research purposes.

[KINETIC_JOULES]

Originally Posted by ash

Yes, the rover will be doing the data collecting Its going to have sensors on board, and sends it wirelessly to the main computer some distance away. The modules are simply parts that can be replaced and are compatible with other parts. You can say that the base with the 6 wheels is also a "module".. we can replace it with a stationary stand, or even a float to traverse across water.

The CE Bot rover is just a cut down version of a lunar robot. When Big K first announced the Google Lunar X Prize, we all got pretty excited, and thought that we can design our own lunar robot. However, it will be a more realistic project if we made a normal rover that has real life applications, such as search and rescue, as well as recon. Its very fortunate that Xheavenlyx has an old laptop that we can use as the brain.

If CE Bot is successful, it will be a great contribution to the society We aim to make the process of creating the Bot as open as possible, so others can duplicate it for their research purposes.

^_^ Yes, I'm aware of what modular means. Didn't you say it would have a camera? Like, maybe for detecting objects in the way. I liked the idea of the virtual map.
I'm sorry if I'm being annoying about this. I'm just trying to get this straight about how I should sketch this out.
(Lmao. Time to break out the compass. . . protractor. . . )

[ash]

Yep, the camera will be the sensor for image collection. Its the most important sensor on CE Bot, since we will transmit the video (pre- or post- processed) to another computer across a wireless connection.

Annoying? Nah, its good to keep asking questions to clarify

Have you seen the previews of the movie WALL-E? Its something like that robot, except a little more simpler, smaller and has wheels.

[KINETIC_JOULES]

Yes. . . I saw the previews. I wanted to go see the movie.
And ok. . . I've got so many designs to work on right now, it's not even funny.

[raj87verma88]

You are in no pressure Tyler, just don't forget to do it or take so much time that we forget you were to do something....take your own sweet time. I know that sometimes the ideas don't come and the mind becomes blank or sometimes so many ideas come that you are unable to decide which is the best.

[ash]

Oki doki folks, this thread will be closed. Good to see CE Bot progressing at a relatively quick pace. Thank you all for your valuable contributions

Please continue the discussions here:
CE Project: CE Bot [PART TWO]